Saturday Night Live - The Karate Teen (2016)

Let's Talk - Cobra Kai
Episode 33: Saturday Night Live - The Karate Teen (2016)

Jason Connell and Sal Rodriguez break down the popular skit and talk about John Cena's career, Wolf Claw vs Cobra Kai, and getting knocked out of your pants.

Synopsis: Saturday Night Live pre-recorded skit parodying The Karate Kid.

Cast: John Cena, Mikey Day, Kenan Thompson, Alex Moffat, Beck Bennett

Original Episode: S02E22

Recorded: 11-12-20
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Transcript

Jason Connell: 12:29:33

Welcome to Just curious media. This is let's talk Cobra Kai. I'm Jason Connell.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:29:38

And I'm Sal Rodriguez.

Jason Connell: 12:29:39

All right, Sal, here we are back for another special episode. You excited?

Sal Rodriguez: 12:29:45

I'm very excited. First of all, this was the 800 and 17th episode of the show that we're gonna be talking about. I don't even though they had that many episodes of the show, which is obviously a landmark show, but still, I was surprised to read that high number.

Jason Connell: 12:29:57

So the show in which we are going to talk about is none other than Saturday Night Live. Yes, it came out in 1975. Well, October 11, to be specific. Do you remember the first episode

Sal Rodriguez: 12:30:12

if I strained my brain, as my mom used to say? George Carlin I think was the first host of the first episode. Am I correct?

Jason Connell: 12:30:21

I have to check on that. You might be right. I know. He was on there a lot back then. I mean, the show back in those days, so they had like a puppet act. They had all sorts of weird things. I mean, this is going back in fact, the original name was MBCs Saturday night, and it was created by Lorne Michaels. And it was developed by Dick Ebersol. Now, Lorne Michaels, he left at one point in time in the 80s, and then came back and he's still there today. And I should tell them the name, if you don't already know. It's the karate team. It's a pre recorded sketch that came out in 2016. And that was season 42 of SNL, which is its acronym, and now they're on season 46. So it just never stops.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:31:12

And worth mentioning only because it really jumped out at me. This episode that we're talking about today aired on December 10 of 2016. It references the all Valley karate tournament, which was what December 19, there are only nine days away, I was thinking that they could have moved this about the to the next week, it would have been December 17. And it would have only been two days away from the all valleys original date.

Jason Connell: 12:31:36

And then if we go back to the special episode of The Karate Kid while we did our crack research, also on the first episode of Let's Talk Cobra Kai covering season one, episode one, we got into what day of the week that was on, and I've never I haven't I took major issue with the fact that I think it was on a Wednesday. Yeah. And I was like, who's gonna go out on Wednesday? They're gonna Saturday. But anyway, that's neither here nor there. We encourage you to go listen to those fun episodes.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:32:03

No, I agree. I think it's funny that you have issue with that. Like, also you had issue within the Karate Kid three when they changed the rules of the tournament, where the champion doesn't have to fight it until the final round. Oh,

Jason Connell: 12:32:15

you have a carousel. I mean, listen, no offense. And this is a spoiler alert for anyone who has not seen Karate Kid part three, but Daniel Russo wins his second in a row all Valley title by getting just one point. Yeah, but I'm not going to put the movie down. I did take issue with that. Hey, we've all got our things. So what can I say? I got

Sal Rodriguez: 12:32:38

upset in Karate Kid three, because Daniel dresses up in his Hawaiian shirt to go out on the date. And then he ruins it with a Yeah, he rose up with a hoodie. He ruins a Hawaiian shirt ensemble with a hoodie that made me very upset.

Jason Connell: 12:32:49

That's right. You're really upset about that. All right, so we open with the announcer played by Beck Bennett is fabulous, by the way on SNL. And he's saying this is the final round of the San Fernando Valley karate championships. They didn't call it the all Valley so that had to make you kind of happy. That was a shout out to San Fernando.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:33:11

I gotta tell you it did warm my heart to hear that because I'm thinking here I am born in Los Angeles proper. But I grew up in San Fernando Valley to hear that announcer on Saturday Night Live such a historic landmark show to hear him say that. Yeah, it did warm my heart. And it did make me smile. I must admit,

Jason Connell: 12:33:28

I thought of you immediately. And I thought, Wait, something's wrong with that. That's not all Valley. That's San Fernando Valley, so props to them for keeping it real and not making it some fictional valley.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:33:38

It was also not mentioned that it was under 18. Because if you think exactly that makes it even funnier that our actors in this scene, namely our host of the show that evening, is supposed to be portrayed under 18. So they did not say that this tournament in this episode of Saturday Night Live was indeed under 18. I don't believe it was.

Jason Connell: 12:33:57

No, I don't think so either. In fact, I thought call on it. The Karate Kid team. Maybe we met upper teens 1819. Close to 20. Yes, adult teen and an answer also says Lars has been taking his licks. I like how we come in and we see the red mats which are later changed to blue and Cobra Kai but this is back to the original. I mean, this came out in 2016 Still predating Cobra Kai

Sal Rodriguez: 12:34:23

Oh yeah.

Jason Connell: 12:34:24

And we have in the background, you could see the all Valley board and the trophies and even the framing you come in and you have did Daniel type on one side that Johnny on the other side, the same type of GIS does from afar. And you have the ref in the middle with the red shirt on that says referee, so everything looks the same, Sal, but yet, it's not. They went with authenticity, it looks apart, it looks great. But please introduce the players because it's not Daniella Russo, and Johnny Lawrence are Patty Johnson as the ref. It's not at all it's different guys.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:34:59

That's correct. And before we get into that, though, I just realized the placement of the rules was reversed. In the Karate Kid. Daniel is on the right, the viewers right. And Johnny's on the left in this world. The Johnny Lawrence ASCII character is on the right and the Daniel Russo ASCII character is on the left. So it is like a reverse version. The more I think about this, the more I like that they were on opposite sides because it's almost like a parallel universe right now. So yes, yeah, they this was this was a recreation, but it also wasn't a recreation.

Jason Connell: 12:35:28

Now that's a really good points out. It's a skewed view of Karate Kid something slightly off, including these new players.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:35:36

So this evening of Saturday Night Live is hosted by John Cena, who's a huge WWE wrestler. And when I say huge, I want to talk for a second about as a toy collector, as an action figure collector to be exact. And I'm out there looking at the world of toys and action figures. I would say that there's two WWE wrestlers that have the most action figures I mean, you're going to see a new action figure in their likeness, at least three times a year at least. And that is the rock and John Cena Wow, I'm telling you, I have for sure myself and I'm not even the biggest John Cena fan. I have at least two three John Cena action figures. They must have at least 2025 Probably. You know that they have a lot of wrestlers that they haven't made action figures off me while they're coming out with new John Cena action figures. In fact, they come in all sizes I've got seven inch John Cena action figures. I got about a 1214 inch and I got a huge 30 inch John Cena action figure so believe me in the in the world of toys and the world of WWE collectibles. John Cena is huge. And worth mentioning. He was a freestyle rapper. Have you ever seen John Cena do freestyle rap? Look it up on YouTube. It's very funny. Going back about 10 years or so John Cena does freestyle rapping hilarious. So in this scene, we have John Cena, our host for the evening and Sammy Knox taking on the judge Johnny Lawrence roll.

Jason Connell: 12:36:58

It's got the hair going on. Not his real hair by the way.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:37:01

Well, what's so funny is that he's portraying the Johnny Lawrence role, and yet he's so buff. I mean, he's so huge.

Jason Connell: 12:37:07

He's huge. It's ridiculous. That's why they probably made this sketch because it's like it'd be so funny to see him in a GI because the of course the arms are ripped off just like all Cobra Kai gaze and he is just, it looks like sports and agar is key. It's beyond comical. Yeah.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:37:23

I mean, if you look at fighting today, particularly as it involves weight classes, you look at these two guys, there's no way they should be in the same arena, let alone the same. The same Matt. We then have Mikey day as Jesse Hart. This is in the Daniel LORUSSO ish role. Yes, we have Kenan Thompson. He's identified later as Mr. Johnson but right now, I would just call him in a Miyagi esque type role because he doesn't get identified until a little bit later. Yes. And then we have Alex Moffatt in the Pat e Johnson slash ref roll. So that is our cast of characters about four of them. There's also we see at one point, I guess we'll get to this ally type one. Wait, I thought that was his mother. I thought that was the Daniel mother type role. I

Jason Connell: 12:38:11

thought it was Ali type and she didn't have anything beyond this kind of standing there nervous. I like how the announcer says defending champion human freight train, semi knocks. Now we know Sammy Knox is going for a second title, much like Johnny Lawrence and the Karate Kid. And that he's part of wolf cloth dojo. Yeah. So I love this. This is too funny. Who have claws. They do this little woof hand symbols like the claw. Yeah, yeah. And by the way, they made John Cena Sammy Knox just so obnoxious. He's always like, yeah, yeah, he's bouncing around. And he's just giddy, and he just looks like he's roided up. No offense, John Cena. And I just love this so much because it looks like a Cobra Kai gi but Sal, it's really not.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:38:59

No, it's not a Cobra Kai gi it is definitely a tip of the hat to the Cobra Kai Gi. But the thing that's funny and I realized this is that John Cena wasn't necessarily just portraying Johnny Lawrence in this particular role. He was kind of parroting most 80s movies, bullies, who are always like laughing as they're as they're jabbing you laughing as they're poking you. Which I think is a funny choice that a lot of movie and TV directors make where they have the bullies laughing right as they're doing bad things because I tell you, in all my years of growing up and encountering a bully here and there, they never laugh. As they were doing wrong things they just did wrong things. They treated you like crap, but I don't remember any of them laughing and yet at the movies, they always have these guys laughing So yeah, he's like haha, yeah, ha ha ha ha Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally obnoxious character.

Jason Connell: 12:39:47

So I guess maybe he's parroting William Zabka. And many of his roles is believable besides the Karate Kid.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:39:54

I think also the brother in The Wonder Years, I think was also a bully type role. I'm just starting to think all these guys back in the 90s. Back in the 80s, who were always had these roles where they were these bully type guys. Yeah. They're always laughing cracking up as they're, you know, sucking you in the ribs.

Jason Connell: 12:40:11

No, you're absolutely right. And I should also mention that he's got the black headband on. And these keys do look great. But we'll get into the logo in just a minute. Let's not forget that the hearts key is also spot on. It's white. It's got the long arms. He's got the beautiful headband. Sal was very similar to the headband is in the Karate Kid because I know you're an expert on that from the Peter sotera. GLORIA love video.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:40:35

Thank you for asking. Jason. You know, I did do a freeze frame side by side and this appears either exactly as the original Karate Kid headband or a close. Yeah, firstly, simile thereof it was it was either it was so close. You couldn't tell the difference. I would just say this was the headband in appearance for sure.

Jason Connell: 12:40:53

Absolutely. So you could kind of tell the hearts gi had like a little logo on it, which was very Miyagi dough reminiscent but you just don't get a tight shot of it ever. But we do see a tight shot of the wolf cloggy. And Sal, what is it say?

Sal Rodriguez: 12:41:11

Wolf clock? No Mercy. So we still have the tagline. Wow, no mercy. Even though this is obviously a different dojo.

Jason Connell: 12:41:19

Absolutely. Love it. Love it. No Mercy is alive and well at the wolf claw dojo. So now we get into the tournament, actual fighting and knocks blocks the heart. And then he hits him twice. And the refs like watch it knocks keep it legal, because I guess he hits him like, you know, like a straight shot to the jaw, which is totally illegal in these tournaments. And so he's on the verge of being DQ there. I would say,

Sal Rodriguez: 12:41:44

Yeah, I mean, I'm no karate expert, but it didn't really even look like he was doing karate. He was just sort of Street Fighter. Yeah, almost boxer style, bare knuckle brawling of block. Ribs face. Yeah, he gave him the old one too. That's what happened here. I mean, I'm not necessarily karate esque fashion. But nonetheless. Jeffie falls to the ground on his back. And

Jason Connell: 12:42:05

then he goes on to say, Sorry, I got dork on the floor with claw. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's, he's Yeah, shoe stop. Yeah. But then he goes on to say what?

Sal Rodriguez: 12:42:17

He yells out. This kid is a virgin. Like he pokes. he pokes fun that Jeff is a virgin while he's there on his back. I mean, just humiliating this guy. Obviously, we're learning this guy is not only obnoxious, he's a horrible person. He is mocking and humiliating you as you are on your back in the middle of the tournament. And by the way, the ref speaking of WWE might as well be a WWE ref. Yeah, turning his back on, the high jinks going on. He even

Jason Connell: 12:42:39

says That'll teach you to take karate heckling him, even being here. And then I like in the background. Now there's five other wolf claw Dojo students. So he's got his posse. And of course, it's just Daniel, which leads me to believe so if this is the finals, a lot of these wolf claws have been defeated. Much like the Karate Kid. Jeffy has bested some of them.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:43:04

Yeah, these are the those extra bonus guys like the B squad. This is the B squad of the wolf's claw there. Yeah, the other wolves claw guys have already been put out of the tournament.

Jason Connell: 12:43:14

You know, I gotta say I'm kind of disappointed. There wasn't a bodybag reference, but that would have been really

Sal Rodriguez: 12:43:19

good. And then at this point is when we see what I would only call as the Miyagi esque type persona there so when the camera goes into the crowd, we see this guy who is obviously Jeff he's coach or trainer or sensei. Yeah, but we don't know really know who he is yet by appearance kinda looks more like a basketball coach, as opposed to Miyagi sensei. So he's there on the sidelines standing next to a woman that I thought was supposed to be Jeff E's mom type, but you believe was Geoffrey's girlfriend, Ali type?

Jason Connell: 12:43:49

I think so. But so la Hart is still on the ground after taking those two shots in a one right in the chat. totally illegal. And so he looks over to Mr. Johnson, which is just hilarious Mr. Johnson. And what happened? So

Sal Rodriguez: 12:44:04

I just got to pause here one second, because we know that this sensei is called Mr. Johnson. We're gonna learn that in the in a few beats. Why would they call him Mr. Johnson? Jason Pat E. Johnson. Yes. I mean, they totally gave a bow to Patty Johnson, of course, our original riff of the Karate Kid and the choreographer of the fight scenes of the Karate Kid, and possibly right the secondary and third movies as well if I'm not mistaken. Yes. Yeah, so Patty Johnson has been a part of this franchise. I mean, he to me, we've talked about this on previous episodes Patty Johnson is is a mainstay. Yes, he is a pillar in the Karate Kid world. Definitely to Jason and I,

Jason Connell: 12:44:44

maybe Patty Johnson did the choreography and this pre recorded sketch. I don't know. Wow, wow. Well,

Sal Rodriguez: 12:44:52

because if you looked at our ref also, there were certain moments in time where you could tell that he was attempting to mimic the patty Johnson role. I mean, not unlike the giant mural on the side of the Floyd's barbershop in Encino, right off Ventura Boulevard. That imagery where you have Daniel Russo and Johnny Lauren's facing off at the All Valley and you have Patty Johnson there in the center are actor here portraying the ref does a spot on there's this one moment Where's with his where his hands are configured a certain way? Boom, that was the patty Johnson stance right there.

Jason Connell: 12:45:23

Yeah. Also Mr. Johnson says kind of a fun name. So I like it. So now we see Mr. Johnson. And we go into like a flashback mode because the heart's looking at him and probably just looking for strength. Much like in the Karate Kid, Part Three, when Mr. Miyagi comes over and gives him words of wisdom to get off the mat and go fight the fight against Mike Barnes. A much tougher opponent, kinda like that. But what happens in this flashback scene?

Sal Rodriguez: 12:45:48

Yeah, and this flashback scene, we have Jeffy now training with this person who we learned as Mr. Johnson in front of a trophy case, we see lots of trophies. Also, Jason, I wanted to ask you this, we also see karate belts up on the wall.

Jason Connell: 12:46:02

I'm glad you pointed this out. So if I may interrupt you for one second. Whose trophies are these. We know that Mr. Miyagi doesn't believe in tournament fighting. We know he only allowed Daniel to fight in the tournament to really save his own hide and stop being bullied. So if they're really going down the left hand of the Karate Kid, well, they were not ever in tournaments. Mr. Johnson believes in tournaments.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:46:28

The only thing I can deduce is that in this universe in this parallel universe, Mr. Johnson and Jeffie leased space from Wolf's claw dojo, they are actually in the wolf's claw dojo, it's now their time possibly like Tuesdays and Thursdays to to.

Jason Connell: 12:46:47

Maybe that's it. And I got to also say that Mr. Johnson wears a members only jacket, which is just great. So he's got that on during training. And you're right about the belts. I made a point of that. I looked at them. I was like, Okay, you got white, yellow, orange, green, blue, purple, red, brown, black. Okay, great. Yes. And I had talked about on the credit card Part Two episode that we did a special episode, I broke down to have keto belts, because I was kind of shocked when I saw Sato training in his yard hitting that big piece of wood. And he was wearing a red belt. And I thought, well, this is like the master of everything. Why would he be a red belt because it have kedo. It's ready to go to black. But then I looked up and in certain styles I saw red is the top belt. Wow, this place there's red, and then there's Brown and others black. So this is obviously a different style than Miyagi as well. But I know we're in some old universe. So Mr. Johnson's karate, the black belt is the end all be all, if you will. And mine for instance, it's it's red goes to black. So you're right there on the cusp, but the black is still the ALT and then it's like first degree, black second degree black and all the way up to like my masters and eighth degree black belt. So it just depends. So I thought it was interesting. They went and got, you know, they did put the belts in order. I don't have a purple belt in my martial arts. But beyond that, all the other belts are accurate. Well, so So let's explain exactly the type of training that he and Jeffie do, which is to me hysterical.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:48:21

I really love this, a lot of that, I would probably say that this concept that we're gonna get into is probably my favorite. My favorite part of the sketch is right now. So Mr. Johnson opens up his hand, revealing a palmful of change. And he says, catch only the penny. And you think, okay, that's going to be nearly impossible. But then He motions for Jeffy to lower his headband to cover his eyes. And of course, Jeffy says, Mr. Johnson, that'll be impossible, I won't be able to see. And Johnson says, Listen to the Wind. So we know something spectacular is about to happen. And I really, really like this this idea of well, because something that I'm into I don't know if I ever talked to you about this, Jason. I learned this from an episode of Happy Days. When Fonzie put the stacks of quarters on his elbows. I can do that. Yeah, there was some sort of competition where they would stack the quarters on the elbows and then catch it in their hand. So I love that game that I originally saw Fonzie do and members of Happy Days do that. I've tried this. I've done this. I think maybe my record is like 13 quarters. Anyway, so in this sketch, Johnson has Jeffy catch not only a penny, but to do it blindfolded. also reminiscent of catching a fly with chopsticks. Yeah. So this moment this gag I loved,

Jason Connell: 12:49:40

he actually says, listen only to the wind. Nice, very Miyagi, ask. And I gotta say you just dropped in a Happy Days reference, which is a tie in to Mr. Miyagi, who was on Happy Days for a run, as he played Arnold. Yes. And so yes, this is hilarious. He has a ton of change in his pocket, you know, nickels, dimes, quarters, and he's got one shiny penny in there. So what happens as Jaffe prepares for this.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:50:12

So Mr. Johnson has this handful of change. He tells Jeffie catch only the penny. He throws the change into the air. And Holy Cow Jeffie. blindfolded, catches only the penny. He opens up his hand. And there it is. So a magical moment. And now Mr. Johnson says, I think you're ready.

Jason Connell: 12:50:34

Yeah, surprises not only Chaffey. But it also surprises Mr. Johnson.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:50:38

Everyone was surprised everyone's surprise. Jeffy surprise. The audience is surprised when Mr. Johnson himself is surprised.

Jason Connell: 12:50:44

So now we cut to Knox sow and what does he say this time?

Sal Rodriguez: 12:50:50

After this is over? I'm gonna have sex with that guy's girlfriend.

Jason Connell: 12:50:57

Oh, it's too much.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:50:59

I love these characters in movies and TV. I love them and hate them. These characters that are so annoying, and yet, we're stuck on them. And he's definitely one of these characters so annoying. In his obnoxiousness as he's been popping. He does this hop around technique as he's getting ready to fight.

Jason Connell: 12:51:15

And Allah heart gets up. And he announces, like, I don't know if he's brave or crazy, which is pretty funny. So everyone wants this kind of want to him to stay down. And by the way, we never mentioned this, but Jeffie is a scrawny guy to see him next to John Cena is it's absurd, just in the way they look. And people are like, Oh, God, he's gonna fight him. So that lets us set the stage there. This is not a match that belongs in anything. You know, if weight classes and anything doing karate, they would never be matched against one another.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:51:49

I mean, that's a whole nother issue. I mean, do do under 18 tournaments have weight classes, or did they have weight classes back in the 80s? Because they surely didn't have weight classes at the valley in 84.

Jason Connell: 12:51:58

No, I've never seen weight classes in karate, and nor have I seen ages. Well, unless you're like over 18. But yeah, maybe there's a Masters division, but then there's a lot of ages that just get clumped together.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:52:11

Pretty interesting, because I would think that they would have weight classes regardless. I mean, cuz you got some big kids. I mean, I'll drive by high school and see some teenagers that could totally kick my butt. Yeah, as we see Jeffy start to get back up. Sammy says bad move dweeb. You know who this reminds me of? Also at this moment, Biff from Back to the Future.

Jason Connell: 12:52:31

There's a good bully for you. Absolutely.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:52:34

Another obnoxious not only a bully, but an obnoxious bully. annoying and irritating.

Jason Connell: 12:52:39

Absolutely. So as Jaffe law Hart gets up. He puts his headband down, pulls it over his eyes. Mr. Johnson has since he likes it kind of a bow. They're kind of like yeah, this is it. This is the training. We worked on this that one time at the dojo. So and so much like in the Karate Kid when Johnny saw the crane, he was confused. Or in the Karate Kid three when Daniel started doing his kata, and Mike Barnes got confused. Sammy Knox is confused.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:53:14

Yeah, Sam even says to the ref. What's he doing? And the ref He motions back? You know, he does the physical gesture like Oh,

Jason Connell: 12:53:21

emoji that everyone uses Ma. Yeah, hilarious. So So Sal, then Jeffy blocks knocks twice, which is like you're thinking, Oh, this is gonna work. He blocks him twice. Knox is disarmed. And then I swear to you, we go into a crane kick setup. Yeah, so it's looking really cool kind of slow mo he almost reminiscent of and the no more King Sweep the leg music video and which we did an episode on where they do the crane almost like something out of the matrix or Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon that a little bit of that started to happen. And then we hear Jeffy say, Listen to the Wind. He says it. Right. And then Sal, what happens?

Sal Rodriguez: 12:54:12

Well, I think this is a classic cinema moment. Yes. Even though it's a comedy sketch. Everything is so perfect. It can only go wrong at this point. It's so subtle. There's a little moment where as Jeffie gets into the crane, Sammy looks over at the ref and the ref gives him the Go ahead. He gives him a quick little nod. I've watched a couple times to make sure that it's like this ref is not unbiased. Today, he's not unbiased. I don't think he likes Jeffie much. He probably was a former Wolf's claw himself. So he gives the go ahead to Sammy, Sammy, all this right hand, I would not want to be hit with his right hand. It's a huge right hand sending Jeffy straight back with his pants literally be left behind on the mat. They're left behind there. He goes through four walls, and you can count them for walls, and they even mention it later. Now, hang on, hang on. I want to say this. I want to say this, because I thought it happened so fast, right? He's going back first are these four walls? What is he going through I freeze the frame. The first wall he breaks through it's a restroom guys taking a leak guys taking a guy's taking a piss in the bathroom. Then he goes to what looks like a lady's clothing store. And there's a woman there like hanging clothing. And then he lands on the far end of what looks like a commercial kitchen like you're at a hotel or an event center or something. So there is laying there on the floor of this of this kitchen. And by the way, this is where we got the good look. Well, a better look anyway, at the bonsai tree logo that is indeed on the back of his game. This is the one opportunity to see that

Jason Connell: 12:55:43

I don't know the name of his dojo as when I couldn't make out so but it does look very reminiscent of the design. But I even love the announcer he's like oh my god Knox punch Jeffie la heart out of his pants and through four walls. Now. So how did he have the vantage point to count the walls? I don't know. And I thought it was just hysterical that there's no ambulance are anybody running? It's just like, damn, That must hurt. No one's really investigating him. And the way he flew through was really funny. Like you just see his body get sucked away in such a way like this pretty good. high production value. I gotta give SNL credit here. We haven't talked about it enough. But being a pre recorded sketch, they really went all out and had a real budget here. This wasn't just an SNL skit, you couldn't have done these types of effects. And to have him go through those walls. And that kind of begged the question in my mind, like, wait a second, we're in a gymnasium. And we're at a fight. Okay, there could be a restroom next door. But there's the ladies department store there. And maybe the commercial kitchen makes sense. But like, Where is this place? What kind of multipurpose center is this?

Sal Rodriguez: 12:56:57

Hang on, Jason. I just gotta tell you this. You mentioned the no medical staff. Yeah, there's no none. But let's look back to the all validating for Johnny Lawrence has a bloody nose. There's no paramedics there's not even a cut man there. Now we have his own sensei wiping his bloody nose with his thumb. So the all Valley is not known for its medical care.

Jason Connell: 12:57:17

That's a good point. And Mr. Miyagi, had to do his own, you know, special heating apparatus to bring Daniel back. So you're right. But I also noticed that before Jeffie goes through the first wall of four, I noticed that there was an advertisement for wrestling it. And it was customer focused, athletic driven. And I'm like, what is that? So I looked it up online. And it was the mats. That's the company that makes the mats they must have gotten some advertisement for this. So this might have been the same company that Darryl called and Cobra Kai to get them blue mats in the all Valley.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:57:58

Wait, is that a real company or just in the Karate Kid universe?

Jason Connell: 12:58:01

Real company? It was on the wall. If you go back and look at Jeffie going through, it's on there like three or four times and I was like, What the heck is wrestling it? So I hope I'm saying that right? But yeah, there you go. Those mats, the karate mats that we all love so much.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:58:16

Yes, they are nice. They are nice mats. So for that hit,

Jason Connell: 12:58:20

which was legal. Because it wasn't in the face. Now headshot. Knocks gets a point. So So thus far, we have seen one point scored.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:58:30

Yes. Okay. Oh, I know. I know what we're getting at here.

Jason Connell: 12:58:35

Yeah, I'm a purist when it comes to fighting in the karate world. So we've seen one point and I know when we first came into this fight, it had already been happening. And I already mentioned what the announcer had said earlier, was the fact that Jeff has been taking his licks. So I don't know what the score is at this point in time, but we've seen one point thus far. So now so what is lard begin to do after kind of shaken off the dust from getting knocked through all the walls.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:59:07

Well, Sammy, is there gloating. Getting props from his teammates, no mercy. Yeah. And next we hear he knocks and knocks turns around. And who is it? It's Jeffy climbing back through the wall. He's crawling. He's crawling on his knees. pantsless mind. He's I forgot that he's not wearing pants. Right? He says. He says is that all you do? Got the crowd reaction? Oh, whoa. Yep. And Sam, he's like, You got to Deathwish dork.

Jason Connell: 12:59:41

Oh my god. Mr. Johnson is like new white Jeffy to get back in this fight under any circumstances.

Sal Rodriguez: 12:59:52

Yeah, I think that Mr. Johnson is surprised he made it this far. Yeah. And he's giving the advice to call it a day.

Jason Connell: 13:00:00

And then the rep is even like doing the hurry up because Jeff is crawling for really slow. And the rest is like, alright, alright, alright, enough, let's just get this. As Jeffie gets his bearings, and he makes it back in the ring, he starts to tell Sammy, what

Sal Rodriguez: 13:00:16

Jeffie is all about this, I would say high level of martial art consciousness, the spirituality of the martial art. So he says, what you don't know about a warrior is when a warrior gets knocked down, he went and we don't even hear that last word. Because knocks right punches him again in the gut, this time sending him all the way backwards through the holes in the wall, the previous four walls, but now out through a fifth wall. The fifth one against talking about breaking the fourth wall and the fifth wall against the broad sides of what looks like a white Honda Accord. Right? He just hit his back to the door and he's there sitting against his car in a broken heap. And the ref says point Knox so Knox gets a point for this.

Jason Connell: 13:01:06

Yes, the level two of the parking garage to be exact. And yeah, I love the fact that Jeff was just gonna come back like a warrior and probably say something like warriors never quit or whatever the heck he was gonna say. But Knox got the green light, legally hitting him got his second point. And Mr. Johnson's like, I gotta think I gotta get to. He's out. Meanwhile, you're not checking on his student for the second time. Nor is there anyone else going over there. I don't see the alley type running to him. Nothing. But now we've seen NOC score second point, and we hear the announcer say, if the heart can't come back, it'll be another victory for a wolf claw dojo. And so that leads me to believe that there's only been two points scored none in the broadcast that we didn't see. Oh, I see. So essentially, if I'm not mistaken, la Hearts D cubed.

Sal Rodriguez: 13:02:05

Yeah. Yeah. So in other words, that wasn't the winning blow, necessarily. Because Jeffy could have come back. So yeah, it was it was a sense that it was a Yeah, would have been a DQ right, or would have been a TKO. What would you have labeled that?

Jason Connell: 13:02:18

Well, this is just a karate tournament. This isn't a boxing match. So you don't get that third point. It's not like TKO and kayo. And now it's I think it would just be D queued when for wolf claw. Sammy knocks back to back champ, because the reason he doesn't come back so he's because Jeff in the heart is out for several hours.

Sal Rodriguez: 13:02:40

Yes, yes. That's what we learned because now we see Sammy walking out toward Jeff. He is Jeff. He's laying there on the heap against the car. And this trophy. Holy cow. Oh my gosh,

Jason Connell: 13:02:51

like six feet tall.

Sal Rodriguez: 13:02:53

It is basically two trophies. If you look at the size of the original all Valley trophy. This is like basically two trophies, one on top of the other. And Sammy looks at Jeff, he says, What the hell and Jeff he says, Oh my God, so he comes to out of unconsciousness. Oh my god. How long have I been out here? And Sammy says, Oh, this is hilarious. Like, it's Jeff his fault. Sam says, Look what you did to my car. You're gonna get it you little fart wipe. I love that phrase fart wipe. Oh

Jason Connell: 13:03:20

my god. And I liked that he

Sal Rodriguez: 13:03:22

blames Jeffy for the damage to his car. Totally.

Jason Connell: 13:03:26

Meanwhile, no one's checked on Jaffe. Not even right away. But like ever, ever. No one went up there and said this poor kid. And yes, the trophy is six feet tall, no less. And by the way, Knox has showered dressed, he's hung out with all the wolf claws. And he's had a good old time. So yeah, it's been a long time since he got knocked out to the parking garage. But then he goes into classic. He's gonna get punched again. And we go to black.

Sal Rodriguez: 13:03:59

Yeah. Very, very funny and way, way over the top. Definitely at this point and looking back even more over the top than the no marking Sweep the leg? Yes. Yeah. Really, really silly and ridiculous.

Jason Connell: 13:04:13

And all the right way. So yeah,

Sal Rodriguez: 13:04:15

I definitely liked it. And this is one of those things. I mean, I'm guilty of this. I'm guilty of needing to watch things more than once to really appreciate them and now that I've watched this a few times and now dissected it with you, Jason, I'm gonna watch it again. I'm sure I'll even appreciate it even more. And it's It amazes me that things can actually become funnier. You know, I think in my head that You reach this peak of funniness once you've seen something a couple of times and it's not gonna get any funnier years later, but things can actually become even funnier. Because you see all these little hidden things that come out whether it be the ref giving the go ahead or whether it be the Mr. Johnson character saying, I gotta get out here, these tiny little things that you can latch on to, which are absolutely hilarious.

Jason Connell: 13:04:52

Absolutely. I mean, Mr. Johnson, telling him to put his headband down that's a great shot the RAF even doing the little subtlety of like the hurry up killed me. Like, hurry up, hurry. Oh, come on. Let's go there. Jaffe. No mercy for Jeffy was hilarious. And then when the heart is gonna give his speech that just kills me every time. What you don't know about a warrior is you know, he's gonna give this big thing, or the fact that he's the one saying, Listen to the Wind. Like he has to verbalize that to Sammy, before he gets knocked through the walls the first time. So yeah, a lot of funny stuff in there. Even the crowd if you look at them again, they have these little wolf claw signs. Oh, sign I missed it. Yeah. Which is great. So really, really funny. It made for a wonderful pre recorded sketch, high production value, tons of fun. And I'm glad we discussed it today. A lot of tie ins and of course, this is pre Cobra Kai, as I said earlier, so these guys just said, Hey, Wouldn't it be funny to see John Cena? It'd be like a Johnny Lawrence type and then they ran with it and they executed it brilliantly.

Sal Rodriguez: 13:05:57

Yeah, the first thing I want to mention is that this is not the first time Saturday Night Live has delved into the Cobra Kai Karate Kid universe. This is the biggest homage to the Karate Kid universe. I also want to give a shout out to John Cena because I know him as a wrestler. Yeah, and I know that he did some sort of freestyle amateur rapping in the past sort of in with a humorous slant. But he was really good in this role. Very funny over the top silly annoying. He did a really great job playing this Johnny Lawrence s 80s. Bad Guy bully. He does a really great job. And I say that because he was so annoying. And I'm not the kind of gets annoyed so easily by a person's personality within 30 seconds, but this guy annoy the hell out of me. He did a really great job,

Jason Connell: 13:06:39

and his hairpiece should get props as well. I don't think we properly described it, but it was the Johnny Lawrence or the Jason Connell blonde sweeping hair, but it was just like this big bushy hair on him which this looked out of place, but it was its own character. And that guy is truly intimidating in a GI I gotta say, Sal, I would not want to run into Sammy Knox. And a tournament.

Sal Rodriguez: 13:07:02

No, definitely not reminiscent of a I forget which Bruce Lee movie it was into the dragon possibly where he fights that real buff guy.

Jason Connell: 13:07:10

Oh, yeah. Enter the Dragon. Yeah, bolo. Young. Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez: 13:07:14

that's who he reminded me of here. Just like you would not want to take this guy on, that's for sure.

Jason Connell: 13:07:18

No, no matter what, you're gonna take your licks much like Jeppe law Hart did. So I hope Jeffy finds his footing and makes it home safely and continues to practice karate. And I'm sure the wolf claw Dojo is piling up hardware at each and every tournament. probably safe to say.

Sal Rodriguez: 13:07:39

And I also think based on the quality of this sketch. They could probably do karate kid two and a Karate Kid three. I mean, I don't know if it's a little late in the game now. But hey, this is 2016 when they parodied Karate Kid, so surely a couple years later, you can do karate kid too? I mean, it mean the karate team, too. Oh, okay. Okay, so yes, they would do the karate teen too, which would be a parody of The Karate Kid too. Yeah, imagine a comical version of this type of world taking place in Okinawa. I can totally see this

Jason Connell: 13:08:09

a lot of Sato running around.

Sal Rodriguez: 13:08:13

Jeffy come out Jeffie

Jason Connell: 13:08:17

SATA too much and some chosen though some chosen in there and be fun. So yeah, that'd be great. And maybe Terry silver could come back for the karate teen part three.

Sal Rodriguez: 13:08:27

I'm looking forward to it. And you know what, this makes me want to check out Saturday Night Live once again.

Jason Connell: 13:08:32

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Sal Rodriguez: 13:08:40

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Sal Rodriguez: 13:08:57

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