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The Next Karate Kid (1994) - Scene-By-Scene Breakdown

August 31, 2022 Just Curious Media Episode 115
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Let's Talk - Cobra Kai
Episode 115: The Next Karate Kid (1994) - Scene-By-Scene Breakdown

Jason Connell and Sal Rodriguez break down the not-so-classic movie and talk about visiting the monk monastery, Mr. Miyagi waxing on, waxing off, and the catch-and-release strategy.

* The antagonist in the movie is known as Alpha Elite,  not Alpha League as mistakenly mentioned in the episode.

Synopsis: Mr. Miyagi is back and he takes a new pupil under his wing: a troubled adolescent girl.

Director: Christopher Cain
Writer: Robert Mark Kamen (characters), Mark Lee
Cinematographer: Laszlo Kovacs
Cast: Pat Morita, Hilary Swank, Michael Ironside, Constance Towers, Chris Conrad, Michael Cavalier, Walton Goggins
Composer: Bill Conti

Original Episode: S04E27

Recorded: 08-02-22
Studio: Just Curious Media
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Jason Connell:

Whoa, just curious. Welcome to Just curious media. This is let's talk Cobra Kai. I'm Jason Connell.

Sal Rodriguez:

And I'm Sal Rodriguez.

Jason Connell:

All right, Sal. We are in studio. Together.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah. It's pretty amazing. It's almost surreal.

Jason Connell:

It is very surreal. So those watching on YouTube Live one frame one box. Can you believe this?

Sal Rodriguez:

We're in the same room literally.

Jason Connell:

We have not been in the same room recording since November 18 2019. Pre pandemic, we at that point in time recorded season two, episode nine and episode 10 of Cobra Kai.

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, that's because Jason, I started distancing before distancing was even a thing I was

Jason Connell:

social distancing way back. But here we are. And then we kind of got to our virtual recordings. And that was April 11 2020. So we're in the midst of the pandemic. We did the Karate Kid part to that time. And then that kind of started this whole new thing. So I am in Los Angeles for three weeks, or at least in California for three weeks la for two. And we wanted to do this particular recording because we are doing The Next Karate Kid 1994 scene by scene breakdown.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, this is pretty big. Because this is not only you being here, us being in the same room, but a very, very special episode and a lot has led to this, right. I feel like this. At this point. I almost feel like this is like a couple years in the making. Totally. Yeah,

Jason Connell:

let's just say that I put it off and I put it off and I put it off. Yeah, we did the trailer. We broke down the trailer recently. I went to the house Julie's house, Julie Simon's house in the movie, Julia Pierce. And here we are breaking the movie down. I will say this is the worst movie. I've done a scene by scene breakdown of but it's not because we don't love it. It's just it's not a well built movie. And that's obvious. But we're trying to find little, little things to love and hang our hat on because Julie Pierce very well could pop up in the Cobra Kai universe.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, I mean, at this point, it's hard to tell what's gonna happen. Nobody knows anything. You know, the showrunners are very tight lipped about everything. Everybody involved in Cobra Kai is very tight lipped. Yeah, we don't know. Yeah, they do a great job being tight lipped. I mean, for us for the fans. We want to know we need to know but I mean, we don't know. Nobody knows.

Jason Connell:

I have a funny suspicion. Although I felt that about Mike Barnes so I'm not sure so I'm gonna have to look over here south because the cameras like way over there. But yeah, we assumed Mike Barnes was coming. I feel like it probably set up to happen now. But Julie pairs in or not. I feel like they could even just bring her back for a cameo. I'd love more. But it makes sense. Now, if they're gonna go get big names to time Oscar winner. No one's achieved that in this sphere. This universe. Elizabeth Shue was nominated for Best Supporting Actress for Leaving Las Vegas, which Nick Cage won an Oscar Mike figures film. But beyond that no one else has these type of credentials. Sure. Right. So why wouldn't you go get her if she wanted to be a part of it?

Sal Rodriguez:

Sure. And also, this movie is very special because of the legacy of the Miyagi verse. Yes, I kind of on my last watching of this movie kind of stay focused on that I kind of stay focused on that legacy and the connection with Miyagi, and Julie's grandfather and Daniel that that whole metal stream, they're all related. Yeah,

Jason Connell:

by the way, we're an orange Dog music studio, my boy, our boy, Wes Hambright, who also created the just curious media intro just curious. So that's where we are. We're at his studio in Northridge, California, where there was a big earthquake way back in the day. For those out here. I was not and before we get started though, sell a word from our sponsor. Let's do it. Support for let's talk Cobra Kai is brought to you by manscaped who is the best in men's below the waist grooming and offers precision engineered tools for your family jewels. Join over 4 million men worldwide who trust manscaped and with this exclusive offer, you'll get

Sal Rodriguez:

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Jason Connell:

All right, here we go.

Sal Rodriguez:

Hang on Jason sorry. We have a third person here.

Jason Connell:

Oh, that's right I'm so sorry Mr. Miyagi.

Sal Rodriguez:

It's not just Jason and I today as if that wasn't enough Yes, we have right here he is in frame Yes. Oh yeah. He is Mr. Miyagi action figure shout complete with bonsai tree made by NACA we're not endorsed by NACA yet but here he is. Here is Mr. Miyagi he has with us in spirit and in action figure form. Yeah, with bonsai. Love it with lawn and chopsticks, chopsticks for catching the fly that's buzzing our air is

Jason Connell:

a fly the snuck in the studio and Mr. Miyagi sleeping on the job, but it was really Danielson that caught the fly the first time it was beginner's luck. So we are breaking down as I said earlier, The Next Karate Kid 1994, also known as online, the Karate Kid, Part Four right whatever

Sal Rodriguez:

I don't like when people call it that because that's not the official name right

Jason Connell:

now it's not an early titles for this film we're young Americans and kids in America where the kids in America well yeah like wait what

Sal Rodriguez:

that's an interesting really seriously

Jason Connell:

seriously saw this so you know I don't know without a choice variable now the synopsis for this credit cut film Mr. Miyagi is back and he takes a new pupil under his wing a troubled adolescent girl. That's it that's just an offset

Sal Rodriguez:

wait I just realized we might be getting a Julius action figure. Oh my gosh, look out hang out with me Auggie.

Jason Connell:

So, really quickly to go over what we always do the IMDb Rating. I'm going to move quick 4.5 on IMDb. Wow, not great. Yeah. 7% on Rotten Tomatoes. The tomato meter is 7%

Sal Rodriguez:

What's worse, Tommy we saw room is that what that's probably more

Jason Connell:

because people love it. This was released September 9 99. Before I saw the trailer and ran the other way. Honestly, true story. So that happened. Columbia Pictures put it out the US gross approximately $8.9 million did not even cover its cost and they did not make a Next Karate Kid Part Two or part three.

Sal Rodriguez:

What Jason You mentioned the trailer you know Jason I recently covered the actual trailer. And both of us agreed anyway that the trailer does not do the movie justice like the movies better than the than the trailer if you want to go back and listen to our episode where we cover the trailer if you want if you care to I mean it's it's it's pretty. I mean, at this point, if they're listening to us cover the movie do they care about the trailer? I'm probably already heard that episode eight. Okay, hopefully so

Jason Connell:

just to give you some context, though, those are a lot of numbers I threw at you. Let's go back in time. The original The Karate Kid. IMDb Rating 7.2 88% on Rotten Tomatoes, well, credit kid Part Two IMDb Rating 6.0 42% on Rotten Tomatoes, the Karate Kid part three. You see a trend here? The Karate Kid Part Three IMDb Rating 5.2 15% on Rotten Tomatoes. It kept going that way, folks. Now the reboot, which I don't have that information with us. Well, I'm with Jackie Chan and Smith. I'm sure it was an uptick, right. Yeah. Cobra Kai then sets the bar up there with a karate kid. It's hitting on all cylinders on IMDb. And so yeah, they just kept going down and wineshop finally threw in the towel on the sequels.

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, I'm constantly surprised when I hear every little news clip or headline. It appears that the reboot was well received.

Jason Connell:

Yeah, it was and they didn't make another one which was shocking to me. They could have easily tapped into part two parts. Maybe Jackie Chan didn't want to I don't know because that was still 2010 It took a long time for Cobra Kai then to take off after that. Now this movie did win an award. It won an award winner of stinker award and it's the sequel nobody was clamoring for and that went to Jerry Weintraub. So he made a fistful of money sell on karate kid but this one was not one of those.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, so it wasn't like they were just in it for the money because there wasn't a wow, he probably thought

Jason Connell:

I owe it to patent right. You know, he figures all things Karate Kid. They got a great talent. They got a young Hilary Swank, but they just fell short. So of course, Weintraub was back as producer John G. Appleton was originally slated to direct but dropped out in order to make eight seconds also came out 94 started Luke Perry's Lane frost really good movie, but it would have been a better movie with Appleton at the helm. That's all I'm saying.

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, would that have changed the writing? I

Jason Connell:

think it would have had impact all the way down. If he's on board, maybe caimans we don't know the trickle effect of that if it had happened, by the way, disrespect the director away

Sal Rodriguez:

and not and I was gonna say not to disrespect the writer because there's some good lines in here. There are some good lines in here.

Jason Connell:

Right. And just to quickly on the director, it was Christopher Kane. He did other movies I think like young guns and some other films we talked about on the trailer episode. The writer was Robert Mark Kaman characters only. Yeah, characters only. It was actually Mark Lee, who wrote the script and then was composed by Bill Conti. And you can hear it in this movie. It's so I had some of the Dream Team, but not all of the Dream Team.

Sal Rodriguez:

Wait, hang on. I think it's a little bit misleading because the characters are by Robert Mark Heyman the characters meaning Miyagi, not Julie Pierce.

Jason Connell:

Miyagi. Yes, that's the only one that would have come out of the original right here. Here he is various again, folks. And now the cast Pat Marita, he's back to reprise his role as Mr. Miyagi Of course, Hillary Swank is Julie piers she would go on to do movies like Boys Don't Cry Million Dollar Baby back to back Oscars, their freedom fighters PS I love you and many, many other things. She's fantastic. Then there's Dugan Michael Ironside Top Gun and Total Recall Starship Troopers. He always plays a good kind of jerk. Oh, yeah, no jerky roll. Bad Guy. Louisa constant towers. She was on tons of shows and movies general hospital she had a long run on so you may recognize her if your general hospital fan. Chris Conrad plays Eric Michael Cavalera. He plays Ned really good as a jerk and

Sal Rodriguez:

he doesn't he does a good job. I want to say later on, I'm going to say how much I hate this guy. I mean, but he's good. I mean, the character, not the.

Jason Connell:

And then Walton Goggins plays Charlie and he's had a great career. He's in Django Unchained, The Hateful Eight justified TV show of vice principals, TV show. Love him. I was shocked when I went back and watch this movie for the first time. It's like, oh, my gosh, I know him. Yes. So he popped, but he's barely in this movie. Line while roll. Yeah. So that sets the stage. And now so we can go into our scene by scene breakdown if you're ready.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, and I'm pretty excited actually. Because again, this was a long time coming a long time coming. I mean, we've been waiting for this. I know our listeners and viewers have been waiting for this. And here we are.

Jason Connell:

All right. So we opened at Fort Myer in Arlington, Virginia, with the Washington Monument in the background, so I've been to DC several times, never this particular spot, but you see that monument very authentic. And so it's a bit of a celebration here. Yeah. Tapping it so do you know what's going on?

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, at first you think maybe it's Fourth of July or something patriotic military happening.

Jason Connell:

Yeah, the President is honoring the Japanese American soldiers and of them of that group. Que Suki Miyagi is honored along with Louisa Pierce and her passed away husband. She's a widow now Jack Pierce and Jack Pierce and Miyagi were in the war together and had this super bond and helped each other through lots of things save each other's lives and all all that we don't know him we just see a photo and a super young photo of pappelina What great

Sal Rodriguez:

photo I like a photo. Yeah, well, how are they doing? That was really him.

Jason Connell:

It looks so much like his face like someone could have altered it. You know, it was really really good stuff. It was

Sal Rodriguez:

a great photo, but also we don't know when Jack Pierce died. We don't we don't have that time.

Jason Connell:

Okay. We've talked about this in the past. So they called him Keisuke right out of the gate. This guy honors him and then he goes up to accept this award. Now we know him from the original as Nereo she never one of the original sorry, the original. It's just Mr. Miyagi. Yeah. And then there's the keychain, the car, the car key, the dog tag that had Hideo on it. Yeah, we only know him as Mr. Miyagi, the sequel and the TV show Cobra Kai, he is narrow Yoshi Yagi that we know. So I don't know where they came up with this Keisuke? I don't know why they wrote something that wasn't there. So that's a little bit confusing. And I was also thrown off a little bit taken aback that there was no speech from Mr. Miyagi. It's like he walks up there with Louisa and then we cut out I would have loved to seeing him give some sort of wonderful speech.

Sal Rodriguez:

I'm gonna say this, and I'll just say this once. This opening scene with this ceremony. I thought it was fine, but I don't think they should have opened with it. I think they should have moved it. Maybe put it along later. That's a good point. That's what I think

Jason Connell:

I liked it. I liked the pageantry and the honoring the Japanese American soldiers, but again, I wanted to speech and I don't know why they called him something else. That's my issues.

Sal Rodriguez:

Oh, by the way, that speaker who introduces him, he's, uh,

Unknown:

he looks really cool. Yeah, I

Sal Rodriguez:

think he was a Hawaiian Senator, I believe.

Jason Connell:

So now we dissolve into Boston, shout out to my new hometown. And we're really in 259 Hyde Ave Newton, Massachusetts is the house to pierce household, which I was at most recently. And it's a beautiful white house in the movie. It's been painted, it looks different. Now. It's been updated. But the home is the same weight is still white. Well, it has white but it's like another color to like a beautiful blue. Like it's been a long time. So they gotta kind of speed things up. But they also pull in this driveway on the left side of the house, which that's not there anymore. And now that's been like sequestered by the neighbor. Because he just pulls up right to the left. It's like, I don't remember seeing that. So some little things have changed in the last 30 plus years.

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, later on I'm gonna ask you about the window where they were dancing because I like still there with Okay, Carla

Jason Connell:

is there and I sat right in front of it. But so it is odd to me that Miyagi comes back to Boston with Louisa and her car like so they go meet in Virginia hadn't seen each other in a while. And now he's coming back to Boston. And he doesn't even know about the troubled adolescent girl yet. No, but

Sal Rodriguez:

you know what? I was today. years old when I realized that the military ceremony with the honors was Virginia then they go to Boston. Yeah, I just assumed it was in Boston, and

Jason Connell:

I made that drive before and that's like a six hour drive. So it's like yeah, I'll go back with you, Louisa. I'll drive you home. Yeah, it's just kind of weird. We don't know why that's happening. We also learn that Miyagi is a rice man hates potatoes. Yeah, you know, I'm Irish. So I love those potatoes, but I also love rice. So

Sal Rodriguez:

I like them both. I like them both, and that's a tough one.

Jason Connell:

So now we meet the angsty teen. Julie Pierce. She comes in quite an entrance. Yeah, right away. Yeah. And we also get the obligatory exposition about Julie's parents died in a car accident and she just is mad at everybody in particular her grandmother. Yeah.

Sal Rodriguez:

I don't know why we don't know why she seems to harbor anger towards the grandmother.

Jason Connell:

Now they had to make her uptight, upset, and Miyagi had to step in and write because her grandmother calls her Susan, which was her mother's name, and she takes that in store like, I'm not Susan, she's dead. It was. It's a bit over the top right there. I could tell like it's a little melodramatic. This movie's got issues, but I love Mr. Miyagi. I'm going on this ride. Yeah.

Sal Rodriguez:

And you know, he's gonna save the day. You see, you see a trouble and you know that he's going to

Jason Connell:

save the day. But then what does Miyagi have to say? Anybody who

Sal Rodriguez:

lose parent have much grief? Grief, trapped in hot become big anger. And he's right. You know, some people say, a lot of people have said the root of anger is pain or sadness. Yeah.

Jason Connell:

And she's a kid. She doesn't even have her wits about her. Her brain is still evolving her mind are all of the emotions and yeah, she's just harboring a lot of anger.

Sal Rodriguez:

Was she playing 1617 here while she churns? I

Jason Connell:

thought 16 In the movie, so like 15 Okay, I assume okay,

Sal Rodriguez:

but she's actually 20 I think Oh, yeah. Older for sure. Yes.

Jason Connell:

So based on this one meeting with Julie Miyagi has already hatched a plan. And sow he's putting Louisa to work. Danielson style.

Sal Rodriguez:

Suggest Louisa son, water flowers.

Jason Connell:

What do you mean flowers?

Sal Rodriguez:

Not here flower flower in Miyagi garden? California.

Jason Connell:

Yeah, so he is shipping Louisa off without even talking about it. He's got a plan. Now do you think Luis is gonna go to work at Mr. Miyagi little trees or what's going on here?

Sal Rodriguez:

You know, after having seen New England? Yes. And after having seen receita Yes. I wouldn't necessarily call going to receipt from

Jason Connell:

now. Yeah, she's in a good place. Yes. A beautiful no Miyagi just needs to stay there. He needs exactly. Yeah. Louisa could have stayed. Yeah. But he's like, no, no, we gotta get you out of this. No,

Sal Rodriguez:

you know what this was? Jason. I gotta to be honest, transparency is kind of annoyed me this was I think is the is the tradition here. Of The Karate Kid. Absolutely. Just to kind of get rid of people. Just get rid of them. Yeah. Especially if it's a woman like some sort of matriarchal figure Daniel's

Jason Connell:

mother. Yep,

Sal Rodriguez:

there we go. You're absolutely

Jason Connell:

right. Ali and part two.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yes. We don't even see Ali. Yeah. And from Karate Kid to.

Jason Connell:

Yeah, we don't see Kimiko because she's out gone.

Sal Rodriguez:

Exactly. It's just like, get him out of here. And Louisa,

Jason Connell:

Sanya you're gone. And the sad thing is, we never see or hear from her again. She Okay, she calls once. So that little call but not with is she getting harassed by crease in receita? Yeah, what is happening in receita? Yeah, Barnes and company are harassing her. So now we see Julie breaking into school. By the way. It's Brookline high school, but I know they took some and cheated some of Tufts University, which I've also gone by I've not yet visited Brooklyn high school, but it does come up a lot. Brookline in the movie, and she's got food for an injured Hawk named Angel. And Shawn. Oh, please,

Sal Rodriguez:

Hawk. Hello, Hawk. Yeah. It took my third viewing recently to realize Hello. Do you think Cobra Kai went back and grabbed it means something right about that sounds good point.

Jason Connell:

Good point. But

Sal Rodriguez:

maybe I'm grasping if there's nothing here. I

Jason Connell:

don't know. But my question sounds Why is the bird here at school? Why not just take it home?

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, because there was the enclosure there was the guy used to keep pigeons there. Yeah.

Jason Connell:

And we learned that plus they want her at school for these various reasons. Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

for the Alpha leads.

Jason Connell:

So now Brookline PD arrives because she breaks into school triggers and alarm and this is like Beverly Hills Cop type music's playing. Yeah,

Unknown:

these cops were kind of bungled. Yeah, the score plays

Jason Connell:

and Julie escapes. Yeah, and they're bumbling they can't catch her. You know, we've all seen these scenes before and it's a bit hokey.

Sal Rodriguez:

These are not track and field stars. These cops No, no.

Jason Connell:

So she heads home and learns of Miyagi plants. Right and probably not loving it either. But everyone goes along Miyagi plants. No one stands up to him. They have great ideas because next thing we know we're headed to Boston Logan, where I flew out of to come on this beautiful trip miss and Miyagi and Julie's see Louisa off like you just said though, it's Lucille from the credit card, part three with Uncle Louie and Sally Miyagi offers to make Julie a special birthday meal. Like

Sal Rodriguez:

what's going on here? Sounds good to me.

Jason Connell:

I guess he did bake Daniel a cake and the original Karate Kid so he is known to do these big

Sal Rodriguez:

freshly caught fish about them. Yeah, so he's trying

Jason Connell:

to bond with her right away and maybe it's good for Julie to hear from a different voice, not the grandmother, like this new guy that's got some wisdom. But what does Miyagi say?

Sal Rodriguez:

Miyagi pick you up here this afternoon. Okay, Julie son. So not a lot of

Jason Connell:

signers in this movie. And that's because he takes her right to school where I think she's probably been skipping and missing and doing certain things. So he's dropping her off and wants to pick her up in the same spot. He wants Julie to get back into school set a good pattern for herself.

Sal Rodriguez:

No, no, if you're a young person stay in school. Trust. Yeah, truant officers

Unknown:

will pick you up. Oh, yeah.

Jason Connell:

So now we're at school and there's a montage with a song moving on up by M people and not to be mistaken. It's not the Jeffersons soundtrack or theme song. Yeah. How's that? Go?

Sal Rodriguez:

Oh, here moving on up. Moving on up to the side. Do a D Lux apartment in the sky.

Jason Connell:

I wish it was that song. So we learned that Julie, we learned right away that she's an outcast, a loner, and then bad boy, alpha League member, Ned sponsor, and Sal, this is a very uncomfortable thing.

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, I think unfortunately, during a lot of the interactions with Julie Pierce and the Alpha elites, I think anytime you have like a group of guys or any guy like threatening a woman, yeah, there's always that undertone. That creepy rapey undertone is always Yeah, it's

Jason Connell:

like physical right aways grab. Yeah, and then there's the sexual advances. It's like this is not okay. It wasn't okay then but it's especially not okay now not being tolerated. But Daniel never dealt with this being a male he dealt with being bullshit, but this is far worse than that. Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

that's the burden that women have to carry with them. It's like if you and I walk out here and get our ass kicked, that's probably just what's going to happen we'll just get our ass kicked. Not gonna happen by that we're not gonna have with Jason martial artists. But the point is, it's going to end exactly most likely. Yeah,

Jason Connell:

this is goes on. I didn't notice because I didn't see this as a kid. But right away watching as an adult, like, oh my gosh, he just wouldn't probably put this in the movie. Yeah, um, well, no, you know what? No, it can be a woman that's pressuring her and probably should have been a Women's League of some sort. Right? We should have had that

Sal Rodriguez:

interesting twist. Otherwise, yeah, there is the rapey vibe. And the rapey vibe, though. Makes you hate these guys. You're like, these guys are terrible.

Jason Connell:

Terrible. Yeah. If they wanted to make worse people than Cobra Kai, they were successful in that. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Now, Sal, please describe for everyone the Alpha league attire.

Sal Rodriguez:

I can't say a word. Much dissimilar attire. This is your outfit. Well, because you know, I was class at 91 High School. This was 94. So this wasn't too far at all. I recognize a lot of styles. So they had the black T shirt tucked in with a black belt into jeans. And a black shoe Reeboks or some Yeah, like black Reeboks. I was looking for tactical boots. I was thinking they should have had tactile Dre and I don't think they what's the

Jason Connell:

tucking in? Really says this is the 90s Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

it also says like we are one group. Yeah, we're one. Yeah, they're all and they have some logos on their shoulders. Yes. Well, in the very beginning, these guys look like rogue hall monitors. Like these guys are like salutely. They're sanctioned by the school. But you could tell that these guys are like taking this way too seriously.

Jason Connell:

It's like what they got not vigilantes, but what was that group of? Oh my gosh, they used to patrol streets.

Sal Rodriguez:

The angels guardian angel guard,

Jason Connell:

that's already an age minds me, but they're not doing good. You're causing all the problems? Exactly.

Sal Rodriguez:

You need the guardian angels for guys with these guys in check.

Jason Connell:

So the leader is Colonel Dugan, and of course it's played by Michael Ironside. And he enters and Ned claims Julie was smoking because he's coming in his net is harassing Julius we've just described and neg those are the bus she was smoking pulls out cigs, right like

Sal Rodriguez:

do you think Duke and bought that I couldn't tell if Dugan really believed that Julie was legit smoking no

Jason Connell:

matter what. It's got proof, no nonsense. And she is sent to the principal's office. And it was a lot like bad cop setup saying you know, they come in we found this drugs over here immediately. Interwrite Dugan probably even knew but even if it wasn't smoking, what is she doing over here hiding from class? Yeah, right. So Dugan tells the principal Harold Wilkes one more mistake and Julie will be kicked out. I love how Dougie is telling the principal how to principal at the school.

Sal Rodriguez:

What because we don't even know what Google's official role is what he's like head of school security. Somebody

Unknown:

who is this guy?

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, yeah. And he's telling the principal,

Jason Connell:

yeah, this outworks. One more, she's out of here. And then Dugan has Eric McGowan, who's this other guy's gonna be the love interest. There's a little bit of he's keeps looking at Julie. And there's a little bit of a connection there.

Sal Rodriguez:

But while they're having that connection, Dugan sees so that's what I couldn't really tell what Dugan was thinking yet because he saw that connection, but then he has him walk her like why is he doing that? I couldn't understand what his motives were it

Jason Connell:

Well, this whole movies all discombobulated, but so yeah, he has Julie walked to class Class 238 He knows her schedule. And Eric's gonna take her and Ned also notices this.

Unknown:

Okay? He Yeah.

Jason Connell:

He asked him what's going on here? But I'm not sure about this joke. When Eric is with Julie and asked her name and she replies go to hell. Right and in which he responds with Go to hell. That's a funny name. What is it Chinese? Now I'm studying Chinese and I don't even get this joke I don't like is it doesn't sound that's a bad joke.

Sal Rodriguez:

It sounds more like it could be what Arabic or something? Like if you're gonna make any stupid joke.

Jason Connell:

Yeah, terrible Joker. It's terrible. So then Eric goes on and shares the school is known for alpha League. Now we know that these guys they know about it. It's made the school famous. You want to be an alpha League? Why? I have no idea. Well, you're

Sal Rodriguez:

the kings of the school. Here. Yeah, you're the laws on your side. You're

Jason Connell:

untouchable. Yeah, it's Cobra Kai adjacent. Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

it's Cobra Kai sanctioned.

Jason Connell:

Yeah, all the thing is missing. His crease wasn't in the hallways. But Johnny is like over guy. He's always at school. trespass. trespassing. So Julie ducks out in the girl's room so she gets away from Eric I'll be right back. I go the restroom. And Ned checks on Eric all this is happening. So that's like hey, you know what's going on? Well, then Eric goes to check on Julie who is now flood the restaurant right do a little bitty window. And she's on the roof to check on ANGEL. Yeah, she's crafty. This Julie

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah. Yeah, but unfortunately she is followed and then they're followed.

Jason Connell:

Exactly. Yeah. Well Ned's keeping a close eye because you can kind of tell there's this weird love triangle happening percolating but we don't really know what's going

Sal Rodriguez:

well Ned is just staking his claim and doing his dominance thing. Yeah. When he says she's mine right? Yeah,

Jason Connell:

well, cuz he's like, Hey, I'm gonna invite you to be come to the docks with me girls want me and the heck is this guy? But so is the hawk in this movie a to give Julie a reason to go to school all the time or be to show that she's got a caring and nurturing side. Is that that the device here with hawk?

Sal Rodriguez:

No, I Angel, I think a spoiling our whole review here. But I think the Hawk is representative of her herself herself. Yeah, the Hawk is her

Jason Connell:

wounded currently, and then sores later on. That's it. That's a wrap.

Sal Rodriguez:

Thank you. So Oh, and the Greek islands.

Jason Connell:

We love the Greek island. So now Eric finds Julie and angel. He pops up on the roofers threatens to tell everybody about this angel. And Julie threatens Eric with it's just so silly. Like well, okay, if you tell people I'll have a bunch of pizzas delivered to your house late into the night, or, or I'll tell everybody you have a social disease. Or I'll put sugar in your gas tank, Julie slow down.

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, and also I don't know if the youth of today knows about the sugar in the gas tank. That's old school. That was a big thing. Like if you hated somebody, you would literally take actual sugar and poured into their gas tank and it just like ruin their fuel lines.

Jason Connell:

And some people did it to motorcycles just on random people like in New York, so not even somebody who hated just just random. Yeah. So she's threatening. It doesn't go more than that. But it's not like they got up to this great start. This is not like a romance or a cute meet. It's not that it's like whatever. So now we cut to Alpha league training. Very Cobra Kai style here, Sal. And we actually had sensei Chris Jensen on the show and he was in this scene. This is the same one well, one of to the prom and the Bull Ring sing because there's tons of playing an alpha league playing an alpha. He had the whole describe that outfit if you would, I don't remember what those were. It was just the tees with a gray tank tops, great grey shorts, tall socks and the knee pads they all had the pads on there and then they're all around learning how to fight a couple of the Alpha Leaguers had the black on I thought and then Dugan, of course, but of all these other guys and Chris I was looking for him. He said you could kind of see the side of his face. Because there's a lot in that bull ring. Yeah, yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

yeah, Cuz usually Alpha league is like five guys usually running around the movie. Yeah, but this was their large like

Jason Connell:

the underlings and newbies we don't even know who but what is do can say he's given a big speech to everybody there and what is he say?

Sal Rodriguez:

ready and able to give a maximum response maximum effort. Go to the limit

Jason Connell:

now that's a far cry from strike first strike hard no mercy little clunky much like this. You know, like, yeah, maximum response, maximum effort. Go to the limit. Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

that would be hard to put in stencil on your dough.

Jason Connell:

We should do it. Let's just do it. I love it.

Sal Rodriguez:

And he's and he's obviously taking his job as like school security a bit too seriously? Way

Jason Connell:

serious. Yeah, way serious. So Dugan pulls a crease he takes Every one down, including Charlie, so he starts to fight his own to show them how to do it. Not all the guys around but kind of the you call them the elite squad. The five that we get to know Yeah, he's like, Oh yeah, do this and he's like throwing Ned down picks on Charlie which is Walton Goggins

Sal Rodriguez:

he basically a grown man kicking teenagers assets and the principal thinks it's great. Sure well, because if the principal says anything, Dugan will kick his ass that's exactly

Jason Connell:

so so while this is happening, Miyagi pulls up watches Julie not meeting Miyagi watches from afar a different vantage point. Eric won't enter the ring. Yeah, calls out McGowan McGowan's, like he's in alpha League and we learn why later. So hold off on that, but he's not really participating. He's questioning things. Yeah. And we'll learn so what happens when he wouldn't enter the ring?

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, he slaps him.

Jason Connell:

Exactly. He gets it. He gets a shot. Well, Dugan provokes him. Yeah. And he gets a shot because McGowan

Sal Rodriguez:

doesn't want to fight so Duke is like, Whoa, are you gonna fight out of anger than it gives them a Yep. And by the way, all of us have seen recently the famous slap on the Oscars slap. One man slapping another man is a bigger insult and punching another man.

Jason Connell:

True. Very true. Well, who else saw this I just said, Miyagi and this is it. This is like that point where he asked to intervene.

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, this is the parking lot of the all Valley

Jason Connell:

tow again. Yeah, part two. Yeah. Well, it was supposed to be in part one, but it got moved to part two. Yeah. So he enters he come in he doesn't know anybody and he doesn't know where to Julius. And so he comes in and Dugan claims Miyagi is trespassing as the students do laps. Now that's interesting. So that Miyagi is trespassing because he's there in order to get not as kid but you know who he's looking out after right? He's a guardian in this instance. So I do get a little out of line with his trespassing business, any parent on premises so the property is trespassing. But then it goes on and shares his old Okinawan story which just goes over dragon's head. He's got a lot of these Miyagi isms or dungeon master type stories. Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

the moral of the story is that the wild beast will get put down. Yeah,

Jason Connell:

but yeah, it's pretty funny. Like, okay, so foreshadow there puts it out there. And then Julie leaves. Miyagi never shows up in the spot that she's supposed to. She jumped in the car with Eric and his remember the car

Sal Rodriguez:

to beautiful red 72 Oldsmobile for for two, and he's quite proud

Jason Connell:

of it. saved it from the junkyard. It looks met. Yeah, me.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah. Almost. I'm surprised he even has this car. Totally. Because he has sort of a sad story. You know, right. Yeah. That's coming. That's coming. Yeah. So So we learn about him. And so it's almost surprising that he has the car but then again, that's all he has is the car. Exactly. It

Jason Connell:

doesn't have a father. Yeah. Yeah. So I like how Eric takes Julie to his job, right. How does she get home? So this is pre Uber taxi? No, we're inside. By the way. He works for a train, I guess you suppose take a train. That's probably what happens. And he works for the MBTA known as the T. It's Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority. And he's a security guard. Well, he doesn't do anything but like walk on top of the train.

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He chases the dogs with the cases the rats away

Sal Rodriguez:

the rats, and then we do what you wouldn't need to do if you had the cats there, then he'd be out of

Jason Connell:

a job Exactly. But you do learn his backstory and like you just said father left didn't die like Daniel's father. Yeah, father left.

Sal Rodriguez:

And we sent him money for a while but then stuff

Jason Connell:

and he wants to be in the Air Force. Top Gun Top Gun. And that's the only reason he joined do guns clan was maybe there's a referral here for the Academy.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, yeah. Dugan was to put in the good word, right. Some sort of letter of recommendation. Yeah.

Jason Connell:

So now Julie son gets home somehow. I don't know how. Maybe it was a train. Maybe she walked and Miyagi ends a phone call, which I believe he was talking to Louisa son. Okay. I believe and she walks

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us Would he be talking? Yeah. And Daniel. Okay. Yeah,

Jason Connell:

that would have been great. They would have split screen Hey, are Daniels mom. Yeah. So Julie walks in right to her bedroom slams the door like all teens. Yeah. And she's changing. Yep. And so this is a sitcom moment like three's companies Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

this is where we start to get in sort of a sitcom II atmosphere because then we get into like the nylons hanging in the medicine cabinet. All that yeah, it gets a little sick CAMI here.

Jason Connell:

It does. And this is the one Daniel reference. So basically, Miyagi opens the door like Julie's on and she's changing. You don't see anything but she's definitely got a bra on or sports bra or something that she's changing. And she yells at him and he's red in the face super embarrassed because he's never dealt with this.

Sal Rodriguez:

Well also, I wouldn't have thought she'd be changing because she had just walked in there. That was a real quick it was fact quickly winning two championships.

Jason Connell:

popped every button Yeah, yeah what is Miyagi SEC because this is the one and only reference to Danielson

Sal Rodriguez:

yeah believe me any Machiel fan or LORUSSO fan will would probably feel slighted I would say by the overall Yeah, yeah this is all we get. So after this incident with the changing and him walking in there Miyagi feels terrible. It feels terrible. Miyagi apologizes you see before I'm live with a friend Daniel son, Daniel son come in Miyagi room. Miyagi come in Daniel sunroom. No big deal, boys easier.

Jason Connell:

And that's it. We don't talk about Daniel again. None of the Cobra Kai stuff, nothing else comes well, like

Sal Rodriguez:

what we discussed on the trailer. It's not so much that they only referenced Daniel once but this was the revenue this is this is when they chose to reference Daniel this very moment.

Jason Connell:

I know. The choice making light of it. I said they should have told a story about how he helped a troubled kid in the past who had issues. He was being bullied. Yeah, just sit her down and set her straight. This story goes right in her head like whatever. Great. You knew a guy says he means nothing to Julie used to live with some guy. Okay, that's cool. That's cool. My roommates are cool. So, Miyagi offends Julie. He tries to talk with her. And he says, you know, Julie, ambition without the knowledge is like boat on dry land. So he's throwing these like Miyagi isms, these little nuggets out there. And she's like, What are you talking about? Like that almost makes her more mad that he's coming out and talking in code. While he says

Sal Rodriguez:

something like, I'm trying to teach you something. She goes, what are you gonna teach me you can't even speak English. Like she makes some sort of ouch out she lashes out.

Jason Connell:

So she's so mad now that she blazes out of the house where I was sitting, I was literally sitting across the street so she would have come right outside and nearly hit by a pizza delivery car. And so it's funny when I finished our episode, when I was at the house, I actually went around the block and reenacted the pizza delivery as the pizza. I will put that on YouTube Live. It was pretty funny. Are you our YouTube channel? And just did exactly as I was the pizza guy. Well, how that moment would have been so he comes over stops. What does Julie do? Well, Julie does

Sal Rodriguez:

something amazing and unexpected as even for Miyagi. I mean, Miyagi has seen some interesting things in his life. I'm a certain especially as a war veteran, right? She jumped. Yeah. How about that? How about the crane? This pizza delivery guy comes up, she suddenly reflexively jumps up and lands on the hood of the car. She only holds it, she only plants it for a few seconds. And then she jumps off again. But she jumps up onto the hood of this pizza delivery car and avoids being killed basically, because

Jason Connell:

he does slam on the brakes. To be clear, he doesn't keep mowing down. He's going way too fast for that area. 24 hours, he's

Sal Rodriguez:

trying to make his 30 minute limit.

Jason Connell:

Exactly. He works for party time pizza 5551235. We're never late 30 minutes or it's free. So he's probably going 45 and a 25 or 40 to 25. But he's like she jumps up jumps off. Miyagi, can't believe.

Sal Rodriguez:

I just imagined a lot of pizza places were probably like, we can't do this. 30 minutes. I

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think people are getting killed

Jason Connell:

to kill somebody. It's not worth it's not worth it. But Miyagi comes out and the pizza delivery guy is hilarious. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I gotta go. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm out of here. And Miyagi, like rolls his eyes and then they go back inside, Julie Miyagi, go back inside. And so we learn that Julie knows karate. Yeah, she already knows

Sal Rodriguez:

karate. Yeah. Or at least was taught lesson taught

Jason Connell:

lessons. And a lot of kids learn it as a youth and then lose sight of it for a long time. But if they ever get back into it, that skill sets there, right? And that's why she could make that leap muscle memory, muscle memory. But how did she learn karate?

Sal Rodriguez:

Okay, so this right here is what I held on to this carried me through the movie is the connection between Julie Parris and Daniel Russo because Miyagi taught karate to Julie's grandfather, who taught it to his son. Who was Julie's father who taught it to Julie. Yep, so she is a part of the Miyagi dough. Legacy and dynasty as is Daniel Russo. So there he goes there but what are the kind of like, like cousins? Not not so different from him and chosen right, in a way? Yeah,

Jason Connell:

that's that's pretty close. So there's the lineage there, right there. And the grandfather, by the way, saved Miyagi his life.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yes. Okay. So more.

Jason Connell:

So he was like connection. You say my life. I'm going to teach a karate maybe to save your life. I don't know. But this is something I passed down. But I got a red flag here. What? Yeah. And the Karate Kid. The original. Miyagi tells Daniel, he never taught anyone karate. Because Daniel says, Have you ever taught this to someone? After he says when he jumps over the fence, saves him on the Halloween night, brings him back to the little office there and Daniel's getting patched up. And he asked me if you've ever taught me one and he says, No, I might

Sal Rodriguez:

have took that meaning is have you ever like taught any kids? Oh, that's what I thought. No, no, that's what I thought kids is like, Have you ever tried to get

Jason Connell:

anybody under a teenager this movie doesn't really line up it's a bit of skewed with the you know his name Kisaki and then this is a big fat Okay, so in

Sal Rodriguez:

other words, the Cobra Kai creators and showrunners want to stay canon or stick to Cannon, but The Next Karate Kid show runners did not care about Canada

Jason Connell:

they did not they did not know if they bring Julianne and they maybe they can write this wrong. Like Miyagi taught him because of this, they can maybe say something in this, put it behind us. So there's this that I want to point it out. That's all.

Sal Rodriguez:

Also an interesting lineage is you had Okay, so he saved Miyagi. Yep. Miyagi taught him karate. He taught his son and it could have ended there. Exact, but instead, we went one step further. And then the dad teaches Julie enough for her to reflexively jump up on a speeding vehicle. Thank goodness she knew it. So very impressive. For Julie that bond. Yeah, in the Miyagi verse. That's what I held on to when there were moments in this film where I'm doing an eye roll or whatever. I'm like, Ah, focus on Marina's final performance. Yep. And focus on that connection in the Miyagi verse legacy.

Jason Connell:

Absolutely. Yeah, I could sit here and slam the movie all day. I have my thoughts, but I'm looking for the things to draw me in. And we'll kind of surmise afterwards about some things that could have done differently. Like maybe she was bullied by women. And there's a few things that I think would have made this movie better, right, but they lost some of the Dream Team.

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, what that would have done is it would have made it a woman's movie effectively, right? If you have a female hero bullied by other females, it will by default become a woman's movie, not that I'm against that I love the Ghostbusters reboot, I really didn't

Jason Connell:

matter. Good idea. And way ahead of its time,

Sal Rodriguez:

it would have been well, yeah, no, I'm by the way, just to be clear, I'm on board with whatever people want to do. You know what I'm saying? What you do is though you make a choice

Jason Connell:

you made they did, but I think if came in and Appleton had been in the writers room, it would have come out differently. Now was Karate Kid Part Three a homerun? No, but it's not this much of a train wreck. It's got to tissues. The tacked on all Valley is an afterthought. But there's a lot of good stuff in there. Right? Well, what?

Sal Rodriguez:

If Abelson and Kaman were on board? It had been the continuing saga of Daniel wish

Jason Connell:

to know if Daniel would have continued let's just say that he tapped out to go do other things. Okay, that would have been his decision not maybe they made Julie it just a little bit. Richard moves around. That's all. So next up more sitcom moments, Julie. Here's

Sal Rodriguez:

where it gets. A little wacky.

Jason Connell:

Yeah, Julie Blair's music with door open my eyes, wide open leaves, stockings and makeup in the bathroom. So my question is this.

Sal Rodriguez:

When does she wear stockings? Or this is a huge house. That's those are Luis's stuck.

Jason Connell:

This is a huge house. I've been by it. I've seen it up close and personal. Yeah, they got to share their own bathroom. Not Come on.

Sal Rodriguez:

We got five bathrooms. But you gotta share. We're

Jason Connell:

gonna put you guys in here the lawn suite. You're gonna share this bad. That's funny. Yeah. So yeah, there's that. And then Miyagi? Wax is a car. So he's waxing on waxing off, and we figure we know what's coming. Yeah, it is. But this is Julian is the magical and she's not falling for it. And Julie wants to which I love. So she doesn't want to wax. But she does want to relearn karate. Right? Really interested. And he doesn't have to convince now this is on her. Yeah. And then they kind of negotiate if she won't wax on wax off. How about to math papers? One history paper for one karate lesson? Yeah. Yeah, he's good. quick on his feet. Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

I like that. You're negotiating. You're not ordering the youth around or trying to dominate them. You're negotiating with them as what? You appreciate it. I like it.

Jason Connell:

Yeah. But I did love that. She was not interested in waxing on wax off, much like Anthony LORUSSO. I'm sure he was like, No, I'm gonna hire a TaskRabbit do this for me. But Julie comes up once never really mentioned really. But she needs money for the mall. She's a teen girl. She wants to go get stuff, right. She needs goods. Yeah. 94.

Sal Rodriguez:

Especially. I mean, I would say the 90s was the end of the mall

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era mall rats. Yeah, kind of the 90s for sure. Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

like, you know what, I found myself at a mall about a year or so ago. And I was sitting there having lunch and I was made it a point to look at the teenagers. I was like, what are the teenagers doing in the mall? They're not doing what we used to do. And that was trying to meet other teams. They weren't trying to do

Jason Connell:

that. Yeah, there's old people walk in the mall. Yeah, walk around. Yeah, having fitness. So Miyagi to help Julie raise some cashola gets her a babysitting gig. Yeah, but so this is no ordinary babysitting job.

Sal Rodriguez:

No, no, it was almost an ambush it

Jason Connell:

super ambush and three young kids across the street. So when I was parked there, that house was still right there. I just didn't take photos of it, but that house is just across the street. Okay, so that was a literally they're legit, because they walk across the street you see that shot, but it's a quick exchange between Miyagi and Julie and you play Miyagi, per usual

Sal Rodriguez:

son, his warm grass is green, because he's trying

Jason Connell:

to give Julie like, kind of like be in your safe place. You're gonna deal with these three young crazy kids. Yeah, who are going to be a handful.

Sal Rodriguez:

You know what it is? Sun is warm grass is green, was the precursor to Serenity now?

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Yeah, serenity. Now

Jason Connell:

Seinfeld. So Julie's like, what

Sal Rodriguez:

if today, Julie's on get hungry. Just you repeat those words. Take deep breath in through nose. Sun is warm. Grass is green. Everything workout? Sayonara.

Jason Connell:

Sayonara. There's more sign hours on this movie than any other Cobra Kai karate.

Sal Rodriguez:

I don't think I've ever heard Miyagi say sign.

Jason Connell:

Yeah, cuz when Daniels driving away, it's Banzai. It's not saying IRA. Yeah. So anyway, and then she uses this later with Eric at one point in time, and who wants to kiss her? Spoiler alert, what's coming, and then she had to reset herself and she uses it. Sun is warm grass is green. He's like what? Yeah, so it does come back into play. But it's these little things. It's just so it's off point. It's off script. This is new stuff. Right? Now putting Miyagi down. It's just you know, this is the writing. And this is where they took it. So at her babysitting gig, she is bombarded by nerf toys, which I love nerf toys by, but she gets her revenge sell. And any thoughts on how much money she made that day?

Sal Rodriguez:

While there were three kids. And I do believe I don't have my inflation calculator. But babysitting pays more today

Jason Connell:

than it did then. Then a lot less than the idea.

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, I think today you're obliged to give babysitters minimum wage at least right back then I think you don't even need to. I'm gonna guess that for the evening. Those rambunctious kids she made in 1994 $25.

Jason Connell:

That's probably a good guess. Oh, no, I think it would be fitting how many kids so

Sal Rodriguez:

maybe that's why I say 25. Otherwise, I would say 50.

Jason Connell:

I'd say between 20 and 30. Tops. 25 might be the max. So yeah, the kids are wild. And then she does a good job of taking it in stride and then returning some of these nerve things back at them these nerve devices, she shoots them with nerves, and then they love her and then she's out. So now it's night. We don't ever see those kids never see those kids again. They're all but I look like that as a kid. Super blonde. They're all blonde kids are cracking up. I wonder if any of them became anybody but I didn't recognize any

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, I guess we may find out on Cobra Kai season five or six if any of those boys show up.

Jason Connell:

Yeah, exactly. So now it's nighttime. Miyagi is in bed, and Julie sneaks out and so it plays as if Julie cranked up the tunes again because Miyagi reaches for cotton balls and puts them in his ear. But we never see her turn any music on. So that was a bit off. It was like we hear music kick in, but it's like, is it score? Are she playing the music but small thing?

Sal Rodriguez:

Oh, you thought maybe she's she is playing music as a decoy for her escape.

Jason Connell:

But then he puts those things in FSF. He's annoyed like, Ah, here she goes again. But they should have shown it. Yeah, like she pushed his play. And I guess it's about nine or 10pm. Right kind of late for her to be sneaking out the house. But she heads to school to feed Angel. But guess who's waiting.

Sal Rodriguez:

But that is funny though. She's sneaking out to feed a bird not to like sneak out to go hook up with a boy.

Jason Connell:

Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Well, who's waiting for her at the high school? Alpha League, you know? He's he loves God.

Sal Rodriguez:

tip of my tongue. Finally,

Jason Connell:

they're waiting for her, which is weird. So they've been waiting because there was they'd heard that a girl had broke into the school. So now they're all waiting like it's a girl. It's a girl. It's got to be Juliet. They're waiting for her and their students themselves. It's 9:10pm on a weeknight, and there's five of them waiting for maybe someone's gonna come

Sal Rodriguez:

but no, yeah, nobody's supposed to be there. No one's supposed to be there. Totally bizarre.

Jason Connell:

So she shows up, and they chase her through the school into the cafeteria. And it's kind of scary like Ned's taking the lead keeping the other four at bay. All that stuff from before is in play. But all slimy, slimy. This guy represents bad. Yeah. And it also kinda reminds me of Jurassic Park. When the velociraptors are chasing them to the cafeteria. You've got those old devices also

Sal Rodriguez:

a precursor to hawk chasing Eli tono.

Jason Connell:

Well, matric matric Hawk Chase and all that feeds Yes. And it's kind of a scary scene. It's super dark. Yeah, he's got bad intention. Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

because you know what these guys so far are very, they're just one dimensional bad guy. These guys have no goodness. These guys are just all bad, creepy slimy chasing a girl at night through school. mainly nothing can come of this

Jason Connell:

Well it starts at the top do guns bad we see that and that that closest to is bad. We never really get to know the other ones they think for themselves obviously are hangers on Yeah, Charlie and then the other ones just don't even have names. So Julie smartly hits the fire alarm.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, good move.

Jason Connell:

And it's a fast response. Well, it's

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Boston. It's not allows you to say Boston doesn't mess around with this la you'd be hanging out. One of my neighbors is a firefighter Cambridge, shout out and even have a

Sal Rodriguez:

show about Boston fire department or wasn't there the Dennis Leary show? Yeah, I was that way.

Jason Connell:

Before I lived there. I wasn't really focused on so fast response. She escaped but the police pull up fire truck pulls up. Thank God you're here. Dugan gets out. I know squad car not driving. He's riding along. It's Brookline PD. And she's like, I can't What the hell

Sal Rodriguez:

I can do guns everywhere. It's like one of those moments where like, you jump in the car like oh my god, a killer is chasing me and they're a new killer. It's like, hey, yeah, no safety.

Jason Connell:

So now we cut to the Brookline police station and Miyagi is picking up Julie so so I'm not sure what she arrested. Or they just took her to jail.

Sal Rodriguez:

Let me tell you something in my life growing up when I've shared some of my juvenile delinquency experiences with friends from across the nation coast to coast. Yeah, in Los Angeles. Things that got us arrested would have only gotten East Coast kids detained. Oh, I've seen so much of this truancies Nobody I know in my lifetime who was ever caught being truant was arrested and put in handcuffs. We were in Los Angeles. So just a different climate here. So yeah, I think kids maybe got away with a lot more on the East Coast, especially a white kid in the 90s Let's but they took her to the police stations. It was detained to tank Yeah, not arrested not fingerprinted not mugshot, the whole thing

Jason Connell:

but we do know that she was suspended for two weeks out of school that was a Dugan is doing because he's there he's like, that's Julie Pierce out for two weeks. And he ordered the principal he does or the principal around we've seen that firsthand. So now we're at the train yard. And Eric agrees to feed the hawk Angel and Julie admits she misses air yeah, did I miss something and it went from like I don't even know you I can't trust you to miss you. Like they bonded very quickly baby when he opened up and told his story a young

Sal Rodriguez:

love can happen quickly. I used to go to summer camp every year as a kid and you would like have the ultimate relationship in a week. That's true. So believe me young love you right away. Yeah, internet speed is young love.

Jason Connell:

And when she admits that Miyagi is in the car because basically when he knows that she is suspended for two weeks he hatches a new plan with a plan to help her get more training. But Miyagi rolls his eyes what I

Sal Rodriguez:

like Kelly gave her her space. He didn't try to go metal. Oh, no, no, no. You know what, what do you want with Julie like he didn't I mean, we see a little of that later in the kitchen with the knife. I like that moment. But he just he lets her have her space and he lets her communicate with this. You know, potential love interest

Jason Connell:

and Miyagi doesn't even meet Eric yet. Meanwhile, he's on top of train again. Not moving. Mind you. It's just stationary. So now we're at Arenys. I love this name. So Ernie has got gas. That is a great name for a gas station. But I want that shirt. Yeah, Ernie has got gas.

Sal Rodriguez:

I like it. And we're gonna be guys similar to the beach guys from the first movie. Yeah. Who are those guys?

Jason Connell:

Oh, yeah. Who won? Yeah. So

Sal Rodriguez:

one Yahoo.

Jason Connell:

One spoke in my high school commencement.

Sal Rodriguez:

Dr. giggles

Jason Connell:

Yeah, yeah. Larry Drake. And he was also dark, man. Yeah.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, these guys are similar.

Jason Connell:

There's also a deliverance vibe going on. Yeah, yeah, there's that. Yeah. So Miyagi wants five gallons of gas. Like how specific he is? Yeah, he

Sal Rodriguez:

didn't give $1

Jason Connell:

I want five gallons. And I want some chocolate bars with almonds. So big fan of that. But the locals Sal have other plans.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, they're in there. Like playing cards are some

Jason Connell:

playing cards and Ernie is behind the register. And the Doberman, a Doberman guard dog growls at JULIE

Sal Rodriguez:

Oh yeah. Very aggressive now so

Jason Connell:

it's like oh, no, we see a Doberman and you immediately think like guard dog this guy's bad.

Sal Rodriguez:

The cropped ears cropped here look friendly.

Jason Connell:

So Miyagi comes in. calms the dog just by he's got that Paul Hogan Crocodile Dundee sense about him. calms him down. The locals are mad that his dog he's like He made my dog a wet brah you know, so he's chicken. He gets scared. And this starts to escalate things. One of these guys grabs Julie Yep, pushes Miyagi I believe twice it's like oh, my gosh, what world is this? Yeah, so not going good but Sal, it definitely had some deliverance vibe because they were coming in hot and heavy and it's grabbing a teenage girl i This happens too much in this move while

Sal Rodriguez:

also making a threatening statement. Like you'll go when I say you or something like what?

Jason Connell:

We're just here for five gallons of gas and some chocolate bars. Yeah, but then from that moment, it Just turned silly

Sal Rodriguez:

when he beats up the guys

Jason Connell:

this fight is ridiculous. farcical Keystone Cops no

Sal Rodriguez:

because one of the other guys that grabbed like a crowbar or something smacking his buddy and they started

Jason Connell:

hitting themselves Yeah. And Miyagi doesn't take a hit, hitting yourself stop hit, he's using them to shield each other and so they all go down. So three are on the ground. And then Ernie is like, Hey, I got no problem here. Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

you could tell Ernie was kind of subjugated by these guys to exactly Yeah,

Jason Connell:

exactly. So cheesy. And now we're off to the monk monastery what we're going to soon find out is the Hmong Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

instead, it's almost kind of reminded me of like Princess Bride where the like outside, they knock on doors like this brick wall. She's like, What do we do now? He goes, we wait. We wait. And they just sit there and they five days pass? Yeah, yeah. We don't know how long it is.

Jason Connell:

Well, so I've talked about this on the episode. We talked about the trailer. And I think I haven't mentioned it when it's in front of Julie's house. But I have been to this location. I was not going for this location to part of the movie. I was just going there with Sofia to take it in because it's Castle Hill. On crane estate. Beautiful. I mean, there is a castle there rolling hills private beach, but this movie cheated this the gardens which are gorgeous. We went through this gate, Sophia and I did what is adjacent to a private beach. Yeah, they have their own private Bush. And it's at just to be clear, to eight zero are Gila Road, Ipswich, Massachusetts, look it up Castle Hill, Granite State, we became members of this whole organization, you can go visit these properties. But they don't show that because I don't want to show like it looks like Downton Abbey or something. They want to keep it on point. So we went through that brick wall and you see the turrets when they enter when the monks let them in. Yeah, hours later nightfall for monks, I believe show up and let them in. And you see a turret in the background, a real beautiful, what's a turret? It's like a rounded area and a castle that's protected. And those little rooms that they stayed in. They have windows but no glass and they're circular. Yeah. And that will cover where there's two or like weapons that would be up there. Exactly. And that was much higher. This is lower the ground like a level up, okay. But there was two of them. You see one when they walk in the gate, and we went in that area, and I was like, This is amazing. And I was telling Sophia, it'd be or maybe she mentioned to me, this would be a great place to stay. You could rent these two things out as Airbnb, sir. Well, it's where they wound up staying, Julie had one Miyagi had one. There was not the tranquil garden, there wasn't the sand garden that was not there. That could have been there in the 90s and 2000s. But more likely the movie inserted that but I don't know. But all the other stuff looks like that what

Sal Rodriguez:

you were there. And while you were there did not know not where you were in the connection to the next credit card

Jason Connell:

did not know until we started prepping. And we're doing the trailer episode. I put it on just kind of scan and get familiar because it's not the trailer. No, but I wanted to get ready to talk about it. So I was going to the movie again. And I thought Hold on. This is like totally bizarre. I'm having an out of body experience here. We were just there. So no, I had never knew until I researched it. And I was only there a few months ago.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah. And I'm watching these monks where they live and I'm like, I need to become a monk.

Jason Connell:

It's just right there in my backyard. Oh my god. So about a 45 minute drive from a

Sal Rodriguez:

great place they get to live.

Jason Connell:

So the monks that the minutes I said but it is gorgeous. It looks that way today. Now it's morning and Julie isn't one of the turrets. You know, it's open air. I mean, it's really cool. There's no glass, there's no one last windows and she runs all the way through the courtyard to me argues it's a pretty good distance. And what is Miyagi doing so,

Sal Rodriguez:

Miyagi appears to be in a deep state of meditation, like a real deep state of meditation. In real meditation, actual, like the practice of meditation there, there's like kind of different levels of consciousness. And Miyagi is in one of these levels of consciousness where trance is gone. Yeah, hello, hello.

Jason Connell:

Yeah, so she can't wake him up. And he finally wakes up. It's Miyagi. He's kind of come back to and training begins, it was bound to happen. So he brought Julie here for a reason. And now they're in the oversized tranquil garden. I was thinking the ones that you know, it wasn't your day. So it's huge. And there is two big rocks and what do they represent? This I love and what does the sand represent to by the way?

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, I guess the sand would be the ocean. Yep, I would imagine and the big rock represents Japan and the smaller rock represents Okinawa. That was beautiful, where Miyagi born, okay, now and where I've been, oh my god, I love it. One of the reasons why I love karate kid too, so much is because I've been to Japan, I've been to Okinawa. I've been to the Kadena Air Base where a lot of the filming took place in that region. So yeah, when he starts talking about Okinawa, and then he has the big rock examples. Beautiful. I love it.

Jason Connell:

I love it too. Really, really great stuff. And to be clear, there's a big rock and then not next to it. It's a good size. Justin's sure there's a smaller rock and they're flat on top. Yeah. So Miyagi wants Julie to do it. He calls it around. Kecak call it a roundhouse but to do a round kick from Japan to Okinawa,

Sal Rodriguez:

but first is that fake? They say fake

Jason Connell:

a kick. Yeah, so it's only

Sal Rodriguez:

like I couldn't understand exactly what he wanted her to do fake a kick then do it

Jason Connell:

and then this is round kick butt in the air like flying kick. Yeah. Where you get you know what people who really start martial arts young, they can do those crazy kicks. I didn't learn that I can do a roundhouse all day, but I don't do I leaping flying through the air roundhouse little a jump kick, but that's tough. He wants her to land on Okinawa. It's a hard exercise. It looks far and if you miss you can hit a rock fall down Parker

Sal Rodriguez:

before Parker. Yeah. Parker before partner.

Jason Connell:

So Julie falls twice. shouldn't get hurt, but she wipes out twice. And then so that's it. That's enough exercise that's walked to the bar now. I don't know where that barn was at. But I did see some other structures. So that also could have been on the property and as far as I know, but so this is where Julie is supposed to learn more about focus. And what happens in there.

Sal Rodriguez:

I like the first month is up on I don't know what you call those things. Rafter Yeah, so like, the next level in the barn. And he releases one of those bags on a rope and bag or sandbag on a rope. He releases it. Yeah, I was surprised she didn't sustain some sort of physical Yeah,

Jason Connell:

he tapped her with it like hard. And so she wasn't focused in on No, she's not in touch with her surroundings.

Sal Rodriguez:

Also, doesn't she like quick to congratulate herself, right? Very little too quick to better so that's

Jason Connell:

next that's later cuz she they go back and for more training. So now we're at dinner with the monks and Julie tries to kill a cockroach because a big cockroach is on the table. Yeah. And so these are monks. They look at things very differently. And this attempt to kill she grabs a shoe and goes to hit the cockroach and a monk covers up the cockroach and grabs it. Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

a real crude way. I mean, even if you were to try to kill a cockroach, we just really smashed it on the dining room table with your shoe. Kind of kind of an odd way to our choice. Well, this

Jason Connell:

ends dinner abruptly. Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

almost like a record scratch.

Jason Connell:

They all get up and they all walk away. Miyagi says

Sal Rodriguez:

he didn't shake his head, but he wanted to shake his head. I think he's doing this he shaking his head in his head.

Jason Connell:

But so you've always believed in a catch and release strap yourself. Is that true with women for you as well?

Sal Rodriguez:

In both directions, time and actions they come. It goes both ways. Sometimes the fisherman becomes the fish and it happens sometimes. No, I do. I do catch and release at home. Unfortunately, I learned something about the catch and release as much as I pride myself on doing the catch and release with insects at home. My understanding is that you have just put a domestic sort of a domesticated child into the wild and they're not going to survive like you put a spider out in the bushes all that grew up in your kitchen. And all of a sudden, like oh my god, so yeah, well, my motives are pure.

Jason Connell:

That's true. Well, we learned that monks and Miyagi respect all living things. And that's a really great philosophy in life.

Sal Rodriguez:

I'm especially at the dinner table for credit. And this isn't her dinner table. No. And you know, they're eating a vegetarian. I don't even get to see what they're eating. I know they're eating a vegetarian meal.

Jason Connell:

Exactly. What did she have a radish and then they have like, rice.

Sal Rodriguez:

Miyagi was eating rice with the chopsticks. Oh, by the way, I love chopsticks. Big fan.

Jason Connell:

Love to be pretty good. Adam got pretty good. took me some time. Now we're at an alpha League meeting. And Eric gets a call from his mother. Classic call from the mother. Dugan will not dismiss Oh, take that call. No. Eric leaves anyway. Putting everything at risk his future at risk? Yeah. What

Sal Rodriguez:

do you say you'll be flipping burgers the rest of your life? Yeah,

Jason Connell:

it's like what? So and he can lose his recommendation to the Air Force. So he leaves goes upstairs to take the call. But Sal, who's on that phone.

Sal Rodriguez:

Julie Pierce is calling Eric McGowan. Just to find out about he faked it as his own mother.

Jason Connell:

Now Eric's unfazed about what he just gave up because he's so happy to hear from Julie.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, but he did think he was running to his mother. Right? He came over said your mother. Yeah, the

Jason Connell:

moment he found out he wasn't like, I just gave up.

Sal Rodriguez:

For this. My life is ruined. I'll be flipping burgers because uh, you

Jason Connell:

Yeah. Oh, that's good to hear from you. But my other question Sal is, how did Julie get to this Python?

Sal Rodriguez:

Where were they right before that

Jason Connell:

he is on the monk mind.

Sal Rodriguez:

Oh, hang on. Is there a payphone?

Unknown:

She was off site. She was at earnings got cast and it's hard to get

Jason Connell:

through the gateway. It's like, How did that even happen? Yeah, problems there.

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, you know what the funny thing is today, we take cell phones for granted, especially in movies taken for granted. Yeah, once upon a time you had to find a phone. And then in the movie, you're gonna like well, we got to have our character find a phone and you have to establish that somehow.

Jason Connell:

I love seeing movies without it. In fact, it was a movie a few years ago, which I really love Lady Bird, but it Gerwig film who I met at a film festival years ago when I was out on The festival was strictly background, but great movie and she put it in the 90s. And there's no cell phones. Sometimes it's great to see a modern movie, just go back and remove that device completely.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, because it's variable that has to be addressed. Exactly. Yeah. Like if you're running and you got your phone while it changes, everything changes

Jason Connell:

everything. She can be texting information, but it just takes that out of play. Yeah. So now Julie, she's growing. She's evolving a little bit. She's not the angsty teen from the beginning of

Sal Rodriguez:

this movie is going through what the character arc is the color. Yeah.

Jason Connell:

And she goes off in a field fields I saw here at Castle Hill Estates, but she finds a praying mantis. And if you studied martial arts, even when I started as a kid or high school, praying mantis, there are techniques for the praying mantis. They look like they're praying. They also could do you know forms after Yeah, yes. And they're really remarkable. Insects. They

Sal Rodriguez:

are. They're interesting to look at interesting, especially when one is biting the head off of one another.

Jason Connell:

There's that but she doesn't kill the spray mantis. She captures catches, yes. And then gives to a monk guess. And he's touched, you know, and then puts him in a tree right away. He says good. Yeah, she's redeeming herself. Redeeming herself. Yes. And then she goes back to practice the Japan to Okinawa kick fails again. And then it's back to barn training with Miyagi. And this time, she's blindfolded, because she knows what's coming. Yeah. So he slaps the old blindfold on her. And it looked like one from the original film. Yes. 10 point. Yes.

Sal Rodriguez:

And also, I think this has to be done the inspiration for the Kenan Thompson sketch from Saturday Night Live. Remember it take only pennies and do it blindfolded for out of my hand. Remember that? That sketch from SNL? I think that the only time we see me on karate teen Yeah, the only time we we see Miyagi tell anybody to cover their eyes is right here.

Jason Connell:

You're right about that. So that's XL Yeah, the karate team, which we love that episode. Go back in our archives and listen to that one. Yeah, you're right. That's the only time he said Yeah, it's like a Star Wars thing. No, Luke, cover your eye. So she puts it on. And then what happens? Because she blocks one, she celebrates

Sal Rodriguez:

premature celebration. And then the next two bags hit her. There's two

Jason Connell:

more monks and they send them down and they both hit her. Yeah.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, you gotta be careful. You know, I think recently I just saw somebody like running to the finish line, like a track and field. And they're like celebrating. Yeah. And then they trip and then the next person. Yeah, yeah, so Danielson

Jason Connell:

did not put the blindfold on the credit card, part two at the old cannery. Diddy now that was dangerous. That thing had like a hook and

Sal Rodriguez:

that would have killed you. It would have killed you. They need these sandbags a mess. Yeah, yeah, they're not gonna

Jason Connell:

kill Oh, and she got one couldn't get the other one. But she's learning like she learned something back down to Earth. You have more to

Sal Rodriguez:

learn best strategy not be there. Now he's teaching her not be there.

Jason Connell:

Well, he also says you need to widen your focus. Because she blocks it celebrates. So now Julie somehow sells smuggled in a jam box. Maybe she bought it at earn. He's got gas batteries and plays dreams by the cranberries. Which I loved the cranberries. And we lost the lead singer not that long ago. Said recipes. There's zombie right zombie zombie linger. Yes, yes. And then she does a Kata because I guess she has not shown her this or at least we have not seen it. Yeah, this is probably a Kata that she learned through her father through a grandfather. Yeah. And three monks enter. One monk leave No, three monks. And then they begin to do what Sal

Sal Rodriguez:

okay. Let me just say I like the scene a lot. Because you can watch this movie. And I think at the end, you'll be like, what did the monks have to do? What's going on? Like, why? You know, but this scene I think kind of redeems the whole monk arc, if you will. I liked the scene. The monks start dancing and they do like sort of a special monk dance. It's it's not a new way of dance. It's not a hip hop dance. It's nothing that you would do. No. Do they kind of Yeah, they kind of do their own. Yeah, they kind of go arm and arm a little bit. Very sweet scene, Miyagi joins them. Julie then joins them. And then at the end of the scene, you have all five of them dancing the three months

Jason Connell:

in front of a great song. Cranberry song is really good.

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, yeah, that's what it maybe inspired the monks to dance. They might not have danced otherwise, yeah. So

Jason Connell:

she apologizes at first kills the music, they come over hit, and they start dancing. Now. I do think it's a really cute scene as well. I really do. It also could have been a deleted scene. Because I feel like what is the purpose? Is this pushing the plot foe beyond cuteness? Sure. And then I'm starting to think how many more deleted scenes were there like this? Let's have the monks do this. Because he really Yeah, the monks are like I love the backdrop I do and it helped her. But you also could have had her arc another way. Sure. It is a clunky device in the writing. Let's get her to a monastery then because the monks also turn very quickly against her and then they wrap her arms around her very quickly, like oh yeah, Julie leizhan

Unknown:

Yeah they were in order for a while after the talk to her she they'd walked by and she ostracized when look

Jason Connell:

so I don't see you but a cute saying I'll give you that. Yeah, so now we're back to the Japan Okinawa kick which I love that and Miyagi gives praying mantis tip. Do you remember this?

Sal Rodriguez:

I don't remember the praying mantis tip

Jason Connell:

tells her what to do like crowd Oh,

Sal Rodriguez:

he said yeah, the praying mantis Niels be ours kneel

Jason Connell:

down before they kick. So she gets extra spring in her step bends down, does the jump would that would be hard. I gotta say the whole kick is hard. I might get a run and do it. But she does it from like, a kneeling position, nails and all that you don't really see the two rocks. You just see her kind of gliding, or however they did that. I think that was really photography. And then Julie succeeds. Yeah, right. And she celebrates and she might over celebrate for Miyagi, in a little too much for him like okay, all right for his liking. But she also wants a karate belt. Yeah, like a brown belt, a black belt. She wants to be recognized for these

Sal Rodriguez:

to go to the mall. If you want a belt. Yeah, are

Jason Connell:

Elvis, you know. So Elvis even got a black belt because Elvis was also in the army. I guess he was in karate. And he's like, next time you see Elvis ask him and it's like that. What do you get your belt? JC Penney, he's always got the belt jokes. Yes, yes. Yeah. Meanwhile, he stills belts.

Sal Rodriguez:

Stole a belt at the All Valley can't forget it. It's canon. Pretty much canon.

Jason Connell:

So now it's wax on wax off time. And Julie's doing it. She's playing along sound she's learning. And we got a little training montage. This is when she kicks it and explodes a bag like this is a training montage. That was the conclusion of the training guys. And I gotta say she's got a really nice roundhouse. She got roundhouses she pops it she has high. It's up. We're gonna

Sal Rodriguez:

see at the end whenever kicks, which was very impressive.

Jason Connell:

I mean, they're high. But Miyagi short, but they're still really good kicks.

Sal Rodriguez:

If I limber up. I can kick a guy in the face my height not over my height.

Jason Connell:

Right. Well, I could go my height.

Sal Rodriguez:

Can you go? Yeah, yeah,

Jason Connell:

let's practice. So now Miyagi and Julie have their last meal. So I guess we're coming up on two weeks. Oh,

Sal Rodriguez:

he says we're leaving tomorrow. We're

Jason Connell:

leaving tomorrow. I wish the monks were here to celebrate the last meal with us because they're talking to her now. And she's not trying to kill any cockroaches lately, although she did kill a spider by mistake. But she said a little prayer a little prayer and bury them.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yes, that's nice. It was accidental an accidental death is excusable in any religion. That's what religion.

Jason Connell:

That's true. So now the monks intersol. And what do they have with

Sal Rodriguez:

them? Well, yeah, at first you think they're going to do some sort of like Buddhist ceremony or something and they end up singing Happy Birthday. Have a cake have a cake? Right.

Jason Connell:

I count as 16 Candles now. It could have been out of frame but I think she's turning 16

Sal Rodriguez:

Sweet 16 out of monk monastery. Really cool and interesting.

Jason Connell:

And so Julie's wish. Totally bizarre is to have the monks visit Boston, of all the things Julie could have wished for. She wants to monks to visit Boston not like something superficial or materialistic better. She was focused on prior. But she wants that and then the present South is to see what happened.

Sal Rodriguez:

Nobody knew this. The audience didn't know this. And Julie didn't know this. No. 10 The trailer is in the trailer. Okay, so the President's to see Miyagi catch an arrow? Well, we don't know that because she goes, What's the target? He says you're looking at it. Yeah. And that's when we learned holy cow. What what's going on? And what Miyagi does here. Now when you see me all you do this is when you know why nobody can touch him. Because if an arrow cannot touch them, how can anybody else touch on

Jason Connell:

and this is something we may have seen and maybe we did see on that's incredible. are real people I think it was Yeah, but the one month goes back and he's shooting it right at your heart arrow and I was thinking you could have just use like a false tip. Not like no it's an arrow with a tip on it. And he shoots it's right on Yagi weights and then grabs it and That'd be funny if it got him a little bit in

Sal Rodriguez:

just a little nuts it's just it's in the sternum it's stuck

Jason Connell:

in the sternum Little help here. Now he catches it before it hits him shows everybody he's still got it these cat like instincts

Sal Rodriguez:

well I think I was really amazed the main thing was it there was no remember like Lethal Weapon are we gonna go on three or you know there was none of that it was just like

Jason Connell:

two three go Yeah, exactly. That's a good point. So now we kind of course back to school and Julie is back and I love sound when she first get to hear someone say like Hi Julie. A voiceover camera and

Unknown:

she loves a player. Voiceover

Jason Connell:

hilarious because we not really established anybody at school but awfully like she has a friend. She has the lair

Sal Rodriguez:

friend nobody. Yeah, nobody is a loner. Yeah. Who's that person yelling?

Jason Connell:

Julie that was in post. And then principal Wilk says Welcome back. He knows her. And then she talks in riddles to him Miyagi style. Yeah, and he doesn't

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, but the boat on dry land. Yeah. The whole best answer is if you ask the right question. Yeah, he's like,

Jason Connell:

huh, so you see that she's churned? Yeah, she's more enterpise a monk. Now she's a monk. She's a Miyagi monk. And now Julie and Eric are in the cafeteria as usual, and then they go up to the rooftop but sow Angela's gone yeah. And of course net appear Oh, this is where net fall? Yeah, just falls right up. Yeah, he didn't fall out. And he's right. Yeah. And

Sal Rodriguez:

if you're gonna go to a secret space, don't look over your shoulder.

Jason Connell:

Okay. It's clear. Yeah. But net is there and fights Eric.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah. It's all well, Eric's not afraid of that. No, he's not afraid not afraid of him. He might

Jason Connell:

not know as much but he's not afraid. But so it also looks like someone could have easily gone off the side of the roof

Sal Rodriguez:

yet. Well, doesn't he has right over the edge of the building? Yeah, that's pretty sick. There's almost attempted murder at this point. Yeah, but alpha Lee can do it.

Jason Connell:

We also find out Ned says that the birds gone they didn't kill the bird. But animal shelter they sent that bird out of there. Right get this bird out of here. So we cut to animal shelter. Animal Shelter, the one and only one in town apparently. And we see angel coming out Miyagi, Julie. They have angel.

Sal Rodriguez:

She's got one of those professional leather. Now she's got this whole thing. And I don't have that before. No, the falconer

Jason Connell:

has this thing. You gotta have that. And now we go to this beautiful place. I don't know where this is in Boston, Massachusetts. I don't know. There's some rocks. There's water. And they're going to release angels into the wild. Yeah, so

Sal Rodriguez:

this is where I think then the hawk becomes a metaphor for Julie herself. She

Unknown:

will here's Yes.

Sal Rodriguez:

Let Julie go. She can now spread her wings. Well, that's true.

Jason Connell:

Well before Angel flies away. I can't believe Miyagi went there with Oh, healing hands. It was just a little bit of hawks can't handle that much. Just no, no

Sal Rodriguez:

a little bit of heat. And they have small bones, small muscles touches,

Jason Connell:

it takes off the little dressing.

Sal Rodriguez:

This is the blessing of the animals by Miyagi who knew that that works on animals too.

Jason Connell:

And they have this little exchange. Be Miyagi again. I'll be Julie, because angel is just like, you know, sitting there thinking what do I do? Like when you take a spider out in the wild? They're like no, I like your kitchen. You're like no spider. You gotta go. While Julie says What's wrong angel? You're free fly away.

Sal Rodriguez:

Sometimes when living gets too long, whole world seemed like very big place.

Jason Connell:

You're strong angel. You're strong. I know. You are fly away fly free. You held a Mr. Miyagi.

Sal Rodriguez:

But no angel he'll himself but your faith gave him courage to fly.

Jason Connell:

There you go. Beautiful metaphor for Julio, as you say. I'll take that as what it is. And it's nice. I don't know if we need the angel Hawk device in this movie, but it wasn't a bad thing. But I think it was a little clunky, like so much of this movie. But of course

Sal Rodriguez:

I love me I guess take on it. But it also showed also the tendering nurturing side of that

Jason Connell:

that's what I asked earlier. That's what

Sal Rodriguez:

it showed the tendering nurturing side of her but then that very thing was she tended to a nurtured I think then it's symbolizing, like maybe her own spirit. Yes.

Jason Connell:

I could have used her calling her grandmother one time. I thought that just set the record straight. Because it's like grandmother just sits and she has no idea how things are going. And the grandmother was like, Sanata She's so busy with Miyagi. He's watering details, and why do they want the back fence painted? And I

Sal Rodriguez:

know, Louisa is back and receita fending off crease fending off

Jason Connell:

like, gosh, what is this place? So So did I miss something? Did we see Eric asked Julie to prom because she tells us to Miyagi. I was off camera that might have been a deleted scene. It wasn't off camera. And with this turned around in her character, don't you think as I just said she would have shared some of this will be August, you would have talked to her grandmother and just kind of built that bond more like the minute you're on the right path. You probably say gosh, you know, I was really rude to my grandmother and and she put me I gave my life on. I think you would have maybe flown her back and she could have experienced some of this. Julie 2.0. Right. But no, that's not happening. Because we just talked about the grandmothers run around with their head cut off am Yagis ranch.

Sal Rodriguez:

Maybe Louisa told Miyagi before she led like at the airport, like hey, if Julie wants to call me I'm off. I'm not available. I'm off grid

Jason Connell:

off grid. So now Mr. Miyagi goes shopping, which could have been a short film of its own cell. And yeah, that was funny. Quickly, Miyagi is out of his LM

Sal Rodriguez:

it was so subtle that the sales woman was kind of implying the dress was for Miyagi. And that was okay. Yeah. And he's like, Oh, no, not for a teenage girl. It's not for me. Yeah, because she was about to sell this man a dress for him.

Jason Connell:

It was pretty funny. Yeah, it was a good scene and I could have seen more of it. Yeah. And how he made the ultimate decision and got a dress because we leave and we don't go back there and now we're at home and that parlor is what Julie calls it that round room that's there today. Yes beautiful first floor like that room it's like oh yeah, I was sitting right there by that room I mentioned it on the episodes where they dance is that

Sal Rodriguez:

with it it's called a parlor that's what she called it that's what she call okay we you know, grown up in Los Angeles. Yeah, we didn't have any park parlor and well we didn't nor did anybody I know they might have had some on the west side but ya know where I live west side.

Jason Connell:

So Miyagi then teaches Julie karate waltz. Yeah, she's doing cat does and moving and countering to him. And that's how he slowly introduces waltzing to June

Sal Rodriguez:

Now this I like because I very cool. Any fight fan knows that dancing will help you fight. But in this instance, fighting helps you dance. Yeah. So this I liked and also very cute, you know, fatherly type father the bride type moment?

Jason Connell:

Absolutely. That came to mind. Or that Tony Danza movie. She's out of control. Yeah. When the father and the daughter bond and it's all innocent. And she mentioned she doesn't have a wall to do any of these things because the prom is coming up. And he won't call it a prom. He keeps calling it the dance. Which is kind of old school goes to

Sal Rodriguez:

the dance tonight.

Jason Connell:

Throwback credit get part two. Our favorite actor who pops up every once a while BD Wong. Yeah. So Miyagi gives this great dress to Julie. Beautiful. He did good. Very sure that helper, you know, the shop salesperson picked it up,

Sal Rodriguez:

and I thought, Miyagi, you know, a little modern. little short. It wasn't below the knee. No, no, no, no, no. Interesting. Choice. Miyagi.

Jason Connell:

Yeah. And he tells her to dance with Eric. It's okay. Go with Eric's a good guy. He's got a job. He seems like he's on the up and up. He quit the old Alpha league. And so I don't know where sow. Julie's wish comes true.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, this was unexpected. Maybe? What happens in that VW bus? Yeah, I don't know the euro symbol. Aw, bus peace symbol instead of the Volkswagen. Yeah,

Jason Connell:

that's fine in three monks arrived. Yeah. Her favorite three, I guess. And I

Sal Rodriguez:

liked that the one month like the chubbier monk was really impressed by the house.

Jason Connell:

And I think it felt like the tourists he's reminded of Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

yeah. Well, that's great. He's moving from an impressive place to an impressive place. Yes.

Jason Connell:

Which I've been to both of them. Impressive. And I'm connected to this. You are You are as are you. So it is also prom night. So they show up on prom night. Eric arrives looking like the money he's got it got a tux on looks great. And so he's quite confused meeting Mr. Miyagi and monks. Yeah, yeah. And I

Sal Rodriguez:

liked that kitchen scene where Miyagi has the knife. And you can tell Miyagi is a joker. Let's not forget Tony Yagi is the Joker. Yes, every once in a while you're going to be reminded of that. I think he was playing with him right with a knife. Yeah, chopping, chopping. Like cucumbers. Yeah, kind of pointing the knife and I'm a little bit right. Yeah, cuz

Jason Connell:

Miyagi first says 10pm have her back by Tim and Eric without a beats like, well, the dance isn't over until I love our midnight and night. How about I bring her home it was like good for him for pushing bad, but

Sal Rodriguez:

I like the obvious answer to that Miyagi was What will you do for that hour? I was like, Ah, what a great response. Yeah. And he's like, oh, and then he goes to treat her with respect,

Jason Connell:

treat her with respect. Perfect. And then comes a very touching scene. The best, most touching. dramatic scene in the whole movie. Oh, with Julia Miyagi. Miyagi goes to see Julie to let their sees her on the dress. This is where the acting training does. He doesn't have a child never had a daughter Daniel was in his life. Obviously those scenes are amazing credit card. Part Two, the best breakdown scene ever with me arguing he lost his father. But this was a nice touching scene because both eyes water yeah, they're aware of the evolution of Julie. And he's just awestruck by her and she's turned into a woman. Yeah, it is a nice moment I gotta say.

Sal Rodriguez:

And not overreact. Did you see the ocean by Mr. Pat Marina phenomenal actor. You see the emotion but not overreacting. And you could tell like as a man as men were kind of got a hold back. I could just break down right here. I got I like hold back and Miyagi did that he did a great job. Yeah.

Jason Connell:

Way to go. Miyagi. Ready to go. Good job. Good job. And so then Julie, and Eric had to prom. And Eric even says like, who are those people back then? Yeah, that'd be shocking to meet a bunch of monks Mr. Miyagi ties. You

Sal Rodriguez:

live with like five monks what's going on there, but I like

Jason Connell:

them a lot. And they're off on their way. So meanwhile, you think it's a night end from yogic in the monks not to be sad because they go

Sal Rodriguez:

bowling Zen bowl Zen bowling. Yeah.

Jason Connell:

Is that hilarious? So another short film? I think this could have been its own short film.

Sal Rodriguez:

You know what I just realized? I just thought of this just now, uh, one of our excursions on Okinawa. They had a bowling alley was a bowling alley on the military base. So near the military base regardless, I had been bowling on Okinawa. That's crazy. Zen bowling. It wasn't sent. I don't know if it was Zenvo Okay,

Jason Connell:

well also since a gym true who was on the show had a scene deleted from the movie right it was he shot a bowling alley and it was at the bowling alley, but like in the pool room of the bowling alley, and that got shot and then taken out

Sal Rodriguez:

because they had to make room for the monks dancing.

Jason Connell:

Yeah, that's it. Oh my god, what can we get that song? Can we get the girls to the Canberra ism. So now we're at prom. We're kind of bouncing back and forth. And Julian Eric Shara dance and all as well. So they have this one dance is one moment they're embracing good stuff going on back to the bowling alley are actually to the bowling alley for the first time you're driving the first time and they're challenging other bowlers there to a big bowl off. Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

cuz that one guy gets kind of aggressive and show Bodie Yeah, and then yeah, me I get challenges him

Jason Connell:

so they challenge them. And it's pretty funny because there's in bowling so they all just kind of go up and do granny shots. Yeah, but they're just so focused. And these are monks Yeah, highly in tune with the universe. And those balls slowly go down and get strikes.

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, there was even one magical moment where the ball goes in the gutter and then bounces out of the gutter. Now unfortunately, as wonderful as that was and funny is that was, I believe, official bowling rules once the balls in the gutter out Yeah, even if it bounces back, which I think it's a ball bounces back. You should let it right in baseball. The ball can bounce out and come back in into play, right? Yep.

Jason Connell:

Yeah. So pretty funny. Same. And again, we're kind of going back and forth. And I like bowling a lot. I really do. I like bowling as well. They have the Challenger they beat him and then later to make it all light. The challenger who lost fair and square tries to do blindfolded bowling. Yeah, he plays for eight ball tavern by the way his jersey shirt said that and he tries a blindfolded bowling cell and what happens

Sal Rodriguez:

and he makes a strike strike a strike with the blindfold it was a granny style also he went normal Okay,

Jason Connell:

that's right all cheer festive time at the bowling alley believe was Brookline bowling alley. And now we're back to the prom and three Alpha league members attempt to do what yeah this

Sal Rodriguez:

was kind of unexpected and so that's the whole point they bungee jump from the rafters again for know from their from the top of the room they three guys that was it. That was their stunt.

Jason Connell:

We know how to Bungie we are alpha League. Well,

Sal Rodriguez:

I mean, they were like bungeed and then like broke out into like an in sync or Backstreet Boys dance. Yeah, that'd be okay. But just to bungee out don't get

Jason Connell:

silly. Yeah, and they're hanging there and they gotta be brought down. Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

the one guy crashed through one

Jason Connell:

guy hits a structure apparently breaks his arm or thinks he breaks his arm. And Eric Superman and he actually pulls helps the guy down helps another guy down. Superman grabs Julie they're gone. They were there for one dance.

Sal Rodriguez:

Nobody stays in the Karate Kid universe. People don't stay at dances very long.

Jason Connell:

Ralph macho Dan Hassan's causes trouble bails at the shower. We just don't have much dancing. Yeah. Cobra Kai a little bit longer.

Sal Rodriguez:

Wait Karateka to when they're on Okinawa were they at that dance?

Jason Connell:

While they're at the bone dance? The

Sal Rodriguez:

bone dance is a big but it

Jason Connell:

gets dark at the bone dance. It does on the other dancer dancing a little bit. Part Three. They hires the guy to fight Daniel. Terry silver hires the guy to fight Daniel. Daniel breaks his nose. At the Club. Things don't last very long. Dance. Oh, yeah. And then chosen. Was that the other one and they fights Daniel. So yeah, if you're a dance and karate kids, yeah.

Sal Rodriguez:

It's going down. Yeah. Yeah. Have fun while it lasts. Right.

Jason Connell:

And so, Ned well, when Eric leaves with Julie It's funny how everything focuses to Eric. Why is alpha link so fixated on Eric and Julie I should say Angelica but Ned is jealous and you see it

Sal Rodriguez:

is there together because remember in the beginning he says she's mine so he has claimed he claimed it but doesn't know why I'm not saying he has the hots for like he wants a relationship like he wants to do probably bad things.

Jason Connell:

Bad things. Yeah. Who is this guy? McGough and getting in the way? Yeah, I'm claiming that she's mine. Like what are you talking about? Well, he's jealous and he wants to fight Eric and Dugan agrees Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

yeah. Dugan is supports this decision. Do get very much a crease in this

Jason Connell:

case. So Eric takes Julie home so she was gone for about a half hour. In fact, Miyagi

Sal Rodriguez:

still chopping with he would have still been chopping vegetables

Jason Connell:

but they're already back home but in reality they probably would still be at the bone wasting

Sal Rodriguez:

and they wouldn't bully and came back home. Yeah, that was a quick turnaround.

Jason Connell:

They should still be out but that's not how this movie works. And they share a kiss are begin to share a kiss. Oh, he

Sal Rodriguez:

said if you know karate, would you use it against me if I tried to kiss you and that's

Jason Connell:

when she said the MA Antra yes you gave her Miyagi gave her but then what happens?

Sal Rodriguez:

Okay, this was unexpected.

Jason Connell:

This is a good scare. Oh, I was like what all of a sudden

Sal Rodriguez:

Ned smashes of what a baseball bat through the driver side window.

Jason Connell:

That's war and then just didn't stop there.

Sal Rodriguez:

Did the back window then to two more? Oh yeah. Have a beautiful vehicle. Beautiful view. Yeah, this was not an 89 Toyota Tercel

Jason Connell:

no 272 Oldsmobile Cutlass for 2010. Yep. So Julie gets out. And Eric when she gets out of the car, he's like, Girl, this is my thing because Ned pulls up in his jeep gets back in his jeep pulls up next to him and says, you know, I'll be at the docks.

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, hang on. I just want to point this out. I did catch something that I thought was kind of odd. Okay. Okay, smashes the window, jumps back in his jeep starts it it wasn't running. If you're gonna smash somebody's window wouldn't you leave your car running running? I liked it. He turned it on. It was off.

Jason Connell:

So he pulls up basically says you know where to find me be the doctor. Eric gets out toxic Julie. Julie runs to Miyagi who's not the front porch because the monk saw this go yeah, they heard and they called me. Miyagi. Miyagi. Sensei Miyagi, and they take off so you got Ned? Eric following? You know, this is a trap sound. It's not just Ned going but

Sal Rodriguez:

yeah, what do you think the guy that just smashed it when it was bad is gonna go to the docks. You're gonna follow him and Eric thinks it's gonna be a one on one. Fight right here.

Jason Connell:

Yeah, we're I'm right here. All right, like to fight near water. What is this? What's going on? So pretty scary. As they get to the ducks. Eric follows him. Their Alpha league awaits. And we know this. He's walking to Ned Ned's, like the bait goes up. And then they literally do something unexpected. I think it was in the trailer, though. I know it was in the trailer. They pour gasoline all over the Oldsmobile and lighting. Yeah. Like a real effect like something out of lethal weapon.

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, you could tell when they did the wide shot. Yeah, there was nobody on the dock when they exploded the car. And then all of a sudden they came back? Yeah. Yeah, no, no, it was really me. If you're a car lover, this is pretty brutal. And also as far as the plot going, I mean, these guys, this is all out war. I mean, I don't know what there is. I mean, this is like, you better get a gun at this point. Yeah, I don't

Jason Connell:

know what Eric did so bad to get on this hit list. He just went to go get a phone call one day. Eric did not deserve this. No, but it's him and Julie combo. And they hate them both. But why can't they just focus on getting more students that Bowl ring saying they had 20 3040 people signing up? Just focus on growing What if that's your thing? Focus on that not going after these two people making an example out of Julian Eric. It's ridiculous.

Sal Rodriguez:

I think the idea for Eric was to Alpha League. It's that mindset. If you're not for us, you're against us. So as soon as you leave us like a gang Hey, gangs, you can't just walk out that's true. You're either gets killed, or they beat your ass, but you can't just walk out so this is one of those things you have

Jason Connell:

to get true. That is true. So his car blows up. And they all call him a gallon by the way it's Eric Yeah, for like Julian Mr. Miyagi, but they all call him a gallon. And so it appears Dugan wants to kill Eric Cree style like or he wants him killed. Dougie doesn't want to do it himself. He wants to push it in play like Maddie killing, not just hurt him. They want Him done, which is kind of like what chosen is going for in the critical part to

Sal Rodriguez:

my honor. Right, my honor.

Jason Connell:

So now Eric's taken a beating. And it wasn't just Ned. It was five on he's been

Sal Rodriguez:

jumped and I have been jumped in years past I haven't jumped it's not you're gonna get kicked in the end when you're down. Oh, they're gonna kick you. Yeah, and this is what's happening.

Jason Connell:

It's bad. It's so bad. They don't even want to partake in Yeah, some of the Alpha he's out. What do you want us to do? Yeah, but thank goodness Miyagi and Julie arrived because she heard them say the doc and so this is where they're going. And Julie wants to fight net

Sal Rodriguez:

now. Yeah, this is some gangsta stuff and Miyagi

Jason Connell:

is not having it but then she pleads her case like I'll never live with myself I can honor myself in this and you know, just all those things and Miyagi thinks about it like he does and Okay, yeah, it's like Daniel, and their karate kid wants to fight in the tournament. Finally at some point he gives into it Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

Miyagi as we've learned hates fighting doesn't want to fight wants to avoid fight. But there does come a time where there is no choice to

Jason Connell:

fight. There's no choice if Julie walks away now. This never ends. Yeah, this is not the end tonight. Alpha league will come after her repeatedly. Same with Eric. So Miyagi thinks about it and relinquishes and says, okay, and he's also got her back. Well, when he got to kill the bull, back to the old story, the beginning good soup. And so Eric's like wait, what? What are you crazy? He doesn't know that she can fight. Yeah, that's in this level.

Sal Rodriguez:

I think anybody present would be like, huh,

Jason Connell:

yeah. And Dugan wants them to kill Julie. What are you kidding me?

Sal Rodriguez:

So Chris S decays next level of evil.

Jason Connell:

But sow Julie has truly been Come The Next Karate Kid. Err it is an outclasses Ned. Even when he throws mud on her i

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, he fought dirty he did he fought dirty but I guess we also learned that Alfa league don't know martial arts.

Jason Connell:

Exactly. They know how to do a few takedowns here and there yeah straight out well trained in martial art. No,

Sal Rodriguez:

no, no, it maybe you can touch on some military maneuvers. Exactly. But yeah, not to take down somebody who can outclass you in martial arts.

Jason Connell:

She does fantastic in this fight. Yeah, kicks her great. And it's

Sal Rodriguez:

she does that what it's called an axe kick. I think

Jason Connell:

the axe she brought her leg with her. She brought a way.

Sal Rodriguez:

I watched that twice. I like what Yeah, I

Jason Connell:

thought it was fantastic. Now, we didn't see her doing any of these moves. Daniel, we saw some things you put it together. And then he went to so far like you said he was not a genius prodigy prodigy. She's that prodigy. She was trained as a kid. But it all comes to light shines here. She best him in a hurry. And this does not make Dugan very happy so and he loses it and he wants anyone and everyone to go after Julie not because Eric couldn't go another round if his life depended on it, and it almost did. He threatens Ned very similar the credit card part to the crease threatenings. And then finally, that's it.

Sal Rodriguez:

Who steps in? Well, Miyagi steps into fight Dugan.

Jason Connell:

Yeah, he's had enough he could see that he's cheating on his own students now. Yes. And he must intervene.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, the Bull has to be put down and now's the moment.

Jason Connell:

And Sal once again, Mr. Miyagi dominates a fight and sustains no hits.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, you know, I guess I'm a little disappointed that none of these fights were close at all there was I mean, yeah, there was no real competition here

Jason Connell:

how he fought Sato. That may have been a fight to the death and it may have been really close. But as we know, it was avoided thanks to the typhoon and then sort of being stuck and saved but that might have been the one that Miyagi would have gotten in a back and forth.

Unknown:

Yeah, same trainer. That would be the only close match. Yeah,

Jason Connell:

but alpha league is no more they took down the bull as you say, yeah.

Sal Rodriguez:

Took down the bull and then sort of a coup at the end where they turn against the leader. Yeah, they won't realize that one guy says that one actor Yeah. What do you You're crazy, Charlie. Yeah, like it's yeah, this is where I stopped right here.

Jason Connell:

Is it even Ned? He's no longer being led he can think for himself he wants nothing to do with it anymore. And you don't have redemption for them but they just see that they were led down the wrong path or

Sal Rodriguez:

right yeah, it's gone too far.

Jason Connell:

And now a quick exchange as we fade out between Julian Miyagi because Julie a she did fantastic but now she sees Miyagi fight. Yeah, she saw him fight at Bernie's gas station of course, and complimented him then, but here she says Mr. Miyagi You are great, not great. Mr. Miyagi. You kick some but

Sal Rodriguez:

Julissa how many times Miyagi say fighting not good.

Jason Connell:

I know somebody always gets hurt Mr. Miyagi Come on It made it it kick some butt.

Sal Rodriguez:

Julie son fighting not good. But if must fight with

Jason Connell:

ah, there it is. Amen. Then Mr. Miyagi winks at you. I

Sal Rodriguez:

can't disagree with that.

Jason Connell:

I love that line. If you're gonna do it when Mr. Miyagi winks at Julie. But rather than freezing on that shot and ending the movie, like all other Karate Kid films, we see angel flying around, we fade angel flying freestyle. And it all comes full circle. That's

Sal Rodriguez:

what finalize that I go. Oh, I see. Angel is Julie. Julie is Angel, you know, symbolically. Yeah.

Jason Connell:

So that is the end. We made it through the next Karate Kid 99. scene by scene breakdown. We still have our outro but I had a few takeaways because I thought about saying these earlier but things i this watch. I've now seen it a few times didn't notice it took a long time to watch it for now. It's really took it I've seen

Sal Rodriguez:

this movie. I saw it. What about a year ago? I saw it. And then just yesterday saw it twice. That's crazy.

Jason Connell:

Well, a couple of things besides the females would have been better villains. But I think we should have ever talked about this earlier. We should have met more students and friends at school. Yeah. Or even out of school because we never got connected to anyone else. But these few people. It was very claustrophobic in that. No, there was no Freddie Fernando. None of that. And this is what Cobra Kai gets. Right. They've built a large ensemble. Yeah. And we liked that. You know, we really liked that supporting players. Alpha League, besides being female could have been a dojo. It really could have been you take it away from this vigilantes, and they really could have been competing in an all Valley type tournament. I mean, let's go back to 20 eaten on the remake? Yes, it was kung fu it was in China. But there's something about that formula that works. And I know they felt resistant to go that way. But had they gone there with different nuances and people, I think it would have been more effective. This plane for life and death at this age, and it just falls short more often than not, in my opinion, your

Sal Rodriguez:

thoughts? When you're fighting life or death stakes are higher. So you would lower the stakes is what you're saying? Yeah, lower the

Jason Connell:

stakes and make it something we can connect with. Yeah. You know, when I was running the film festivals, for all those years, I started seeing this device happen a lot with young filmmakers. And it was a lot of short films. And listen, I did short films before and feature films, and I did documentaries, but I was seeing is so much like, oh, yeah, it's a thing that we think would be interesting. And that was the fact that a lot of short films have a gun in them. What are we doing? This gun will be in a short film. And that'll be a lot more often than not the story slacking. This device doesn't make it good. It can enhance it. But it's all about the writing and how we're connecting with people. And I felt like yeah, to the death is not always good if we can't get there. And that's where I felt it was disjointed. And Julie's arc was nice. It was also destroyed. A lot of things just didn't really line up. Now, we don't know what was caught. We don't know if there was issues. We don't know how many drafts went through a lot of things we don't know for sure. But the end product is what we judge I think

Sal Rodriguez:

I have a problem if bad guys go down too easily. Exactly. Like in karate kid too. It was a lot of back and forth with chosen it was and Daniel at the end. Yeah. It was a very they were fairly matched. Yeah, they got there. Yeah. Whereas Dugan went down to easy. Ned went down too easy. Yeah. Yeah. And they were

Jason Connell:

just be lining for Eric and Julie just didn't make sense that they're not a threat. They want nothing to do with it. And they weren't like going around their back. And had they done some things like Daniel had done back in the day when he poured water on Johnny and then got him more. They didn't even do that. Had they done something I know Eric fought net one time on the roof, but it's like, they weren't even a threat to you. So why go after them?

Sal Rodriguez:

Well, I think maybe what I would have wanted to really wrap it up a little more was if maybe McGowan could have trashed Ned's jeep. Well, yes. Something that was like,

Jason Connell:

oh, maybe you shouldn't have provoked him. One thing, it would have been helpful. I also mentioned this already, they should have reconnected Julie with her grandmother even at the very Yeah, it would have been a nice closure.

Sal Rodriguez:

What if grandma would have showed up at the dark at the copy out of a taxi?

Jason Connell:

This movie might as well have done. It might as well. Now also the fact Julie already knew karate, which means she probably had competed in tournaments as a kid. Maybe we don't know. Yeah, I would have liked to seen childhood footage of her training and also of her family. We never see anything from her parents. I mean, maybe a photo but that's more her grandparents. Yeah, I just a little something of like young Julissa.

Sal Rodriguez:

Yeah, we don't see her parents. We don't see her father who taught her karate. Exactly who was this man who just connected either missing guy from the Miyagi verse?

Jason Connell:

Yeah, who learned it and was killed? Yeah. And you've made a good point about how angel represents Julie and I get that I have issues. But angel in the Hmong scenes I felt were often clunky and could have easily been eliminated. And that could have worked a different way. It's not terrible, but it does bring the movie down. It just does. I could see someone watching it now for the first time and not doing a podcast about it and not doing it for Ken and going. What's his I've heard a lot of people have tried to watch this movie and can't make it through it.

Sal Rodriguez:

No, you know, I think that there should have been why because all that went down with the monks. But I really don't think there was a payoff, like maybe at the end is after she bests everybody. And they're riding off into the sunset. Maybe she sees a bug. Yeah, she sees the bug and she leaves it alone. We Ah, there you go. Lena, she's changed. How did the monks help her beat the Alpha league on that dock? I don't know. So that's what I mean. So there's no payoff with the monkeys. They should

Unknown:

have been on the dock. Yeah, what if they would have appeared in the VW artists jumped in the car Miyagi? Yeah, they would house at least three

Sal Rodriguez:

of them. Exactly. If Miyagi and Julie showed up at the dock. Why weren't the monks with them for backup? I know. Yeah.

Jason Connell:

Also Julian Ned could have previously dated we don't know, right, ie, Johnny and Ali, and thus playing up this love triangle, which was there but missing? Yeah. It was kind of like devoid of that. But Ned had his own plan. It

Sal Rodriguez:

seemed like there was a history there and seems sort of backstory. He's always

Jason Connell:

had his eye on Yeah. And I got the feeling to like, did she just come to the school and got shipped over live with grandmother and she's in a new school? Maybe that happened a few months prior? I just, I felt like she's been fish out of water. But maybe she'd been there all along. We don't know.

Sal Rodriguez:

But remember, Hi, Julie. Yeah, someone newer.

Jason Connell:

But had they follow the beats of the original? Really? I mean, honestly, maybe it's female villains. And maybe it is a dojo, and maybe she's remembering she knew karate and put her in a tournament where she could have bested more than just what I think it would have been a stronger Trump would have gone down that path, but I think in the end, we would have had a better movie. Yeah. So that's my thought.

Sal Rodriguez:

Jason, I can't disagree with a lot of these takeaways that you had. Absolutely. This is not my favorite of the whole franchise, either. I latched on to a few things. One was the relationship between Miyagi and Julie, through the grandparents through Julie's father, and then how that then circles back around to Daniel. So even though we feel Daniel was slighted and dismissed in this movie, and marginalized, if you will, he's still there in spirit. He's connected. Now Julie's a part of that Miyagi universe. So I focused on that. And of course, the final portrayal of Miyagi BiPAP Marina Oh, I savored every minute of that. I don't know if it was easy for him at this point. If he slept walk through it or phoned it in as they say, but whatever he did, he nailed it. He did a great job. It's my pleasure.

Jason Connell:

Absolutely. So no, I don't think he found it in. I think he loved this role embodied this role, and didn't take it too far. Unfortunately, the movie wasn't strong enough around him and his performance, but I could have seen another Karate Kid with Mr. Miyagi. Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

I could have seen. Sure. And there was a time right. There was time there

Jason Connell:

was time. There was time and it may be something that would have happened, maybe it would have sprouted up another one. With this storyline or another he's back in Canoga Park receita. The valley we don't know. And we'll never know. But he also lives on in Cobra Kai. Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez:

he truly does and an action figure form.

Jason Connell:

Yes, he does. I'm anxious to see how this movie could potentially come into the universe. I am rooting for Julie Pierce, because her arc was really great. And whatever she did for the last 30 years, could come into play. Maybe she's teaching at a dojo, she's doing something she's winning, has her own children and has her own children. Is she in Boston? Is she moving to LA? I want to see it. I'm fascinated because they're not restricted. Like they were with Elisabeth Shue, why they weren't restricted with Elizabeth Shue but I mean, it's just different. It's wide open for them to take it wherever they want to take it. And I'd love to see it. So here's to that but Sal, we did it. Here's to us also being back in studio. Yeah. Amazing. Was this. Yeah.

Sal Rodriguez:

Thanks for joining us on this very special. I mean, this is a was a very special, all things combined. Yeah, a very special episode. So thanks, everybody for watching and listening.

Jason Connell:

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Sal Rodriguez:

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Sal Rodriguez:

Here it is Jason.

Jason Connell:

Oh show me show me.

Sal Rodriguez:

No Mercy.

Unknown:

Yeah, does he say I like he should say that.

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