The Karate Kid & Cobra Kai - Prequel Spinoffs

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Episode 148: The Karate Kid & Cobra Kai - Prequel Spinoffs

Jason Connell and Sal Rodriguez discuss some potential prequel spinoff series from The Karate Kid & Cobra Kai.

Recorded: 05-23-23
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Transcript

Jason Connell: 0:01

Whoa, just curious. Welcome to Just curious media. This is let's talk Cobra Kai. I'm Jason Connell.

Sal Rodriguez: 0:11

And I'm Sal Rodriguez.

Jason Connell: 0:12

All right, so we are back. For what?

Sal Rodriguez: 0:18

We're back for another special episode.

Jason Connell: 0:22

You pass the test. You passed. Well done. Well done. We are. This is an exciting episode. I happened to read an article the other day. And I thought, we gotta go and do an episode on this because it's similar to an episode we did back in the day. And that episode, um, let me just go back in the Wayback Machine. So give us an effect here. There it is. So way back when episode 61 We did an episode called Cobra Kai spin offs. And that episode was recorded June 24 2021. Sal, we were talking about spin offs way back when just you know we're gonna have our time are ahead of our time for true Mavericks in this space. So here's this article comes to us from Screen Rant. And this is the subject of the article, five Karate Kid prequel shows that could happen after Cobra Kai season six. So yeah, hey, I'm a sucker. I fell for it. I read the article. And you know what? I wasn't digging with all the ideas until there was one that was right on point. But I want our viewers listeners fans to have their own opinions. And I figured we'd go over this article, which I know you've read as well. And we'll just head off these five things and explore if they're a good idea. Bad idea. Probable or not. Sound good. I

Sal Rodriguez: 1:52

like probable, probable I'd like to follow because, you know, yeah, it's one thing. It's like, oh, that sounds great. But is it likely like you and I have discussed a Louis Anoosh spin off? Right.

Jason Connell: 2:03

Green is great to have green light right now.

Sal Rodriguez: 2:06

But is it probable? Probably not. Unfortunately,

Jason Connell: 2:10

no. Modern day Odd Couple. It's been a while since we've had that. You know, that was a reboot of an earlier Odd Couple writers a movie. So I want to give credit where credit's due. This article was written by Angel Shaw published May 14 2023. So all we're taking is the top five not really, angels take on each version because we can have our own take. But if you're ready, we'll jump in. And we'll do it like Dave Letterman, top 10. We'll go five to one. Does that sound good? Sure. Yeah, sounds good. Okay. All right. Number five, a Cobra Kai prequel set in the 1980s.

Sal Rodriguez: 2:52

We got like three years there right. Before the the valley 84.

Jason Connell: 2:56

Yep. We have three years. So you would see young Johnny, we'd probably see his first two all valleys. Right before he was going for the three P

Sal Rodriguez: 3:07

you'd see him starting to date, Ellie.

Jason Connell: 3:10

Yep. You'd see Daryl Vidal when a title. I like that. I'm liking some of this younger John crease. Well, it's not that much younger, though. It's only like two three. Exactly. And we've already seen a much younger John crease. Thanks to Cobra Kai. So I know it is trying to squeeze it in there. You could do 70s 80s I mean, you could take it from where Cobra Kai left off with Terry silver and crease like right before they made Cobra Kai bigger, we can jump into the 70s. But right after Vietnam right after combat until the 80s. When you start opening the dojos. And you could

Sal Rodriguez: 3:47

say hang on that's like Jason That's like a good 10 years, let's say 74 to 84. Like

Jason Connell: 3:52

that. Yeah. Well, that this is not saying that, but we're expanding on it and changing it. So

Sal Rodriguez: 3:58

yeah. Although

Jason Connell: 4:00

probable? Probably not.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:05

Probably not because I think it hits a little too close to the original Karate Kid. It's a little too close to it. Yeah. I mean,

Jason Connell: 4:10

yeah. And you'd have to start really embellishing some stories. I mean, listen, it'd be cool just to spend these few years learning all the Cobra Kai's from the Karate Kid. We could learn about Dutch and Bobby and Tommy and Jimmy we that's kind of cool. But it feels almost like a chapter. Not a series. Yeah, I would settle for flashbacks of them younger. That'd be kind of cool. somewhere sometime like Johnny's thinking back or another. You know what I mean? Like, but does it deserve a series? I don't know. But listen, if they greenlit it, so I'm in.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:47

But Jason I almost feel like we should be given a thumbs up or a thumbs down to these choices.

Jason Connell: 4:53

I like that. So the concept I like, but I can't see it come into fruition. How about you?

Sal Rodriguez: 4:59

I'm gonna have to agree I think because you're talking about probability, I think it's improbable that they would do that. Therefore, I'm going to have to give it a thumbs down because I don't think that they would know so

Jason Connell: 5:08

give me some flashbacks. Let me see the younger Colbert guys young Johnny dating Ali somehow somewhere in something. Give me that. Okay, number four a Karate Kid prequel following Mr. Miyagi is father. Interesting.

Sal Rodriguez: 5:26

I don't know if it necessarily has to be Miyagi his father in particular, as much as that time period. Yeah, we'd have to go back to we talked about Well,

Jason Connell: 5:33

no, our favorite thing is more specific. This is about Miyagi his father his upbringing. We're going further back in time. How did he learn martial arts? Well, this is truly the origin of at all of Mr. Miyagi,

Sal Rodriguez: 5:48

because I've never officially met like, even though we we saw Miyagi his father in karate kuttu we never actually officially met

Jason Connell: 5:56

I didn't get to know him. There was no flashbacks there. So no, this is more on the vein of like a kung fu like it almost be like loosely connected to the Karate Kid because it's so much older. Cool, listen, I'd love it a martial arts themed show that deals with a different era and a period piece. However, probability I'd say is low now I say that with a caveat of this saying a spin off happened sound it's super successful. Well then you can go back and revisit these probabilities because another show really successful, more things are gonna get greenlit but right now there is no spin offs of Cobra Kai and I'd say the probability of this happening next is low

Sal Rodriguez: 6:46

Oh, well let's not forget also if they were to go into a young Miyagi is father they would have to go that into a young Yogi come out a young Sato

Jason Connell: 6:58

I don't think a show will focus on the father but again let's revisit that later. And well yeah, what's your what's your

Sal Rodriguez: 7:06

Well hang on Jason see if you're gonna focus on Miyagi his father I'm not against it. I'm not against it. If you're gonna focus on Miyagi his father though, then why not focus on Miyagi his brother to both of them? Both parents? Who are these people? Yeah, good

Jason Connell: 7:17

point. Yeah. So

Sal Rodriguez: 7:18

I would say unfortunately, in probability, so there you ask

Jason Connell: 7:21

orgies. Thumbs up, thumbs down. So I'm not saying I'm not that we don't like it's probably like, we're the students that will actually order the studio and we're saying yea or nay.

Sal Rodriguez: 7:33

While you're like, are we gonna get 50 million for this? Probably not. So there we go.

Jason Connell: 7:37

Okay, number three, a Karate Kid prequel following Daniel Russo's father? Oh, my goodness, I've

Sal Rodriguez: 7:47

never what have we talked about? Daniel

Jason Connell: 7:50

definitely talked about his father because he did pass away before the Karate Kid even starts. And we know

Sal Rodriguez: 7:57

nothing about him. No, we don't even know his name. We don't know his name a little

Jason Connell: 8:01

bit on Cobra Kai, but nothing more. So if we got to know his father, and the article talks about this, maybe we'd see how Daniel was such as you said, prodigy and martial arts. Like his father had to be special because his mother's special. It's like, yeah, I get it. I couldn't use the flashback. Again. I'm going to keep leaning into flashbacks. Because I think we could have used one just to show his father a young Daniel playing with his dad. But do I see a series surrounded by that? I'm going to say

Sal Rodriguez: 8:35

no. Pass? I'm gonna say no. So I would say unlikely. Unlikely.

Jason Connell: 8:41

All right, that leads us to number two. And all Valley tournament prequel following several dojos. And let me explain. They're talking about after the Karate Kid, Part Three, which was the worst all valley in the history of all valleys. And then before Cobra Kai happens, there's a big gap sow. We don't know about those all valleys as well. We don't know a lot. Right. Really? I mean, that's it. The late 80s 90s 2000s all the way up to the first one when the show happened. So yeah, who won those gap valleys, big gap and you could follow dojos over that time. Obviously Cobra Kai wasn't present. But you know, locusts and all these other ones that we've come to know from the Karate Kid and Cobra Kai. Interesting. But that's like loosely regulated and now it's just

Sal Rodriguez: 9:39

you know, why foreign? No, just you know what I think the problem is the problem is that even if they made a great series of those years, we don't know any of those people.

Jason Connell: 9:48

That's I mean, you have to give their whole new cast a whole new thing. It's like when the Walking Dead had Fear the Walking Dead and they Yeah, this is what I'm saying. Like when a show is so successful, and the Cobra Kai is the Karate Kid Cobra Kai Is it could despite a bunch of things, so I'm not saying this is crazy, but to be the next thing. It's not there yet. We have to see our spin off work. And I'm not calling Cobra Kai spin off because it's the first show is the spin off of a movie franchise. But the next thing spin off Cobra Kai has to be successful. And then who knows anything's possible. But I would probably say no on this for now.

Sal Rodriguez: 10:32

Jason, I'm gonna agree with you. But I have to say that with my own caveat, please. And that is that you and I are focused on a series spinner. Yes, yes, a series as we know, it's on Netflix. But what about like maybe comic books? Well, what about collectibles? Like recently recently in the world of collectibles, playmates, has Cobra Kai versus Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? Yeah, that does not exist anywhere. A Cobra Kai is fighting TMM T. And yet in the toy world, it's happening. So my point is, we might not see something in a series. But can it happen? Maybe in a comic book or in the toy world? Maybe

Jason Connell: 11:10

aren't on a pill? Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez: 11:13

there you go on a t shirt. Yeah,

Jason Connell: 11:14

I'm not yeah, that's

Sal Rodriguez: 11:16

that becomes a different thing.

Jason Connell: 11:17

I'm talking about the next spin off spin off meaning show series. Sure. Now, could we have a movie? Yeah, who knows? But none of these four ideas thus far. would have been a good movie either. I don't think so. Here we go. Number one. And this is a good one. A Mr. Miyagi prequel show set across several decades. I don't even know if you need the second part. We all want a Mr. Miyagi series. And that to be clear, not Mr. Miyagi Post, The Next Karate Kid, although I tune in for that, we're going back to the early childhood of one Mr. Miyagi, pet marinas. Mr. Miyagi, not Mr. Miyagi, his dad also called Mr. Miyagi, and seen him as a kid with his friend who is subtle, who you'd like to imitate occasion. And, of course, I think this is the top opportunity, I give it a thumbs up, first of all, and I think that this really has the opportunity to become a show because it's not trying to piggyback off Cobra Kai. It's its own thing. It's also in the universe. And it may not even be the next thing. So I wouldn't be shocked if we're just talking here. I'm just focused on this article. But just off the article for a second. I'm not even going to be shocked if some of the young cast mates who don't leave Cobra Kai to do movies right away, somehow did a spin off of their own. That could totally happen. Right? That really could. And their storyline goes on. But I'm thinking like, what was that show Saved by the Bell college years, which I believe you were on? Right? I don't even know. Sal Rodriguez starring in. But I don't even know if the whole cast migrated over. Or it was some of them because I didn't watch the college years. I don't go like the football player was on there. But I don't

Sal Rodriguez: 13:19

know. So some of the cast was on but I don't think all of

Jason Connell: 13:23

them so. Yeah, a screech he made it into college.

Sal Rodriguez: 13:26

I don't know if he was there. I still remember that was around the time of screech started getting involved in some unsavory activities.

Jason Connell: 13:33

So recipes, I don't know if that's going to happen. But I'd say like, this is a high bar. This could be a really cool. This is truly like, Kung Fu. And you could see the origins and you could see him falling in love with Uta.

Sal Rodriguez: 13:48

Right? Yes. So I feel like they have their work cut out for them. It's almost like after Cobra Kai, yeah, we our expectations will be very high. Yeah, for whatever they decide to give to us, whatever they decide to. It's an honor, whatever they decide to honor us with, we will have high expectations for regardless of what it is. So I really feel like they better mind their P's and Q's and cross their t's and dot their eyes on this because I really feel like there's some pressure for them to deliver.

Jason Connell: 14:15

Here's an idea. I'm going to take this Miyagi series one step further. If done right, in the right hands, it can also be a great movie.

Sal Rodriguez: 14:27

I think so yeah. After now, after Cobra Kai after where we're at in space of time. Yeah, I do agree. I think it could be. But I would like to see it on the big screen. That's what I mean. I mean, I think you I don't mean like just a Netflix

Jason Connell: 14:38

type of show. And Netflix makes big movies now too. But I mean, the cinematic opportunity of the backdrop the era because, you know, it would be 50 years prior or 40 years prior to credit

Sal Rodriguez: 14:53

like 1930s 1940s him

Jason Connell: 14:56

in Okinawa. You can even do a trilogy. I mean, it's going to cost more and it's a bigger gamble. But I totally could see it. But if not that, I think a series and he would also kind of know like, Hey, this is going to be one season two seasons, three seasons, you all you know going in the length of that type of show, which is probably better, it's not going to get crazy. And it can only go so far to the Karate Kid. I like that it has, you know, very strict parameters on it. But again, I love it. This feeds the fury of me wanting this, but not just you and me, Sal. We have a special correspondent to this episode. What Yeah, yeah, this just did. Well, I'll let you tell me who it is in just a second. So bear with me. Audio video connection here for those watching. You can see this. The listeners you can still hear it. Bear with me. This is the Wayback Machine.

Sal Rodriguez: 15:57

I don't know. I don't know who are watching here. All right. Oh, wow. Nice. Okay. Here we go. The man himself.

Media: 16:04

What is the young Miyagi story? What was who was that teenager and that man in his 20s in the who went to World War Two and, and lost his wife and child, which is all part of the karate original Karate Kid film. And what what led that guy in history that we little pieces of the history we learned from him in Karate Kid part two, in Okinawa? What? What led this guy to be a maintenance man in a small apartment building receita kind of a mirror of what Johnny Lawrence started out with in the first season of Cobra Kai. So it's all ripe and to be there, whether whatever it is, I would love to see it. There have been discussions but nothing once again, nothing official. But I would love to and I know Pat always wanted to dive more into how Miyagi became, you know, the man that he got to know.

Jason Connell: 16:57

Well, there you have it. Dude, I almost started. Oh my gosh, I saw that right after this article was like, Oh my gosh, I gotta include that in here. So you know, you have legend, Ralph macho, Daniel Russo talking about it. You know, he was a huge part of why the show is successful. Signing off on it bringing back his likeness passed on The Next Karate Kid. And he's on to legacy. Anybody touching Cobra Kai's into legacy? So I really think so. It's a homerun. It's gotta happen. And I just hope they do it. Right.

Sal Rodriguez: 17:35

Yeah, and I would say at this point in time, I'm almost expecting it. Yeah. Right. I think shocked. Didn't expecting Yeah, yeah, everybody. I think you know, everybody's ready for the final season. Yeah, everybody's brace themselves for the final. After that everyone is now I think we'll be expecting a spin off. And I think this is the spin off. We will be

Jason Connell: 17:56

expresses it. This is it. I'm also expecting Julie Pierce. And

Sal Rodriguez: 18:02

I'm expecting Julian season six. I really am. I'm expecting her to season six. If they don't wrap up Julian season six. I don't know what to say. I don't think she's gonna be anywhere part of the Miyagi verse. If she's not in season six, I

Jason Connell: 18:12

agree. So that's all I got. I wanted to cover this talking about spin offs. I know the writers strike has delayed the production and the release of season six, but it's only gonna make it just we're all craving for season six when it finally happens and spin offs around that corner. I'm telling you, so look for it. Let's go. Miyagi Verse continues that lives on the legacy lives on. And that's all I got. So, any other thoughts?

Sal Rodriguez: 18:42

Well, I'll just tell you this Jason since I mentioned the collectibles arena, and I mentioned Cobra Kai versus Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles those were at Walmart I believe for sure at Target. Okay, now I just spotted recently at Ross Ross is a discount liquidator clothing retailer. Yeah. Ross sells also has a toy section. In their toy section of Ross. I recently saw Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles versus Cobra Kai action figures in stock at Ross so be sure to check it out any of you toy collectible and Cobra Kai Karate Kid fan?

Jason Connell: 19:16

There you have it. Word on the street. Thank you, Sal Rodriguez.

Sal Rodriguez: 19:20

I'm out there, man.

Jason Connell: 19:22

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Sal Rodriguez: 19:59

No Mercy