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Let's Talk - Cobra Kai
A humorously nostalgic podcast covering all things in The Karate Kid & Cobra Kai universe. Hosts: Jason Connell, award-winning documentary producer & martial arts guru, & Sal Rodriguez, comedian & toy expert/collector.
Let's Talk - Cobra Kai
Patreon/Superfan - Lindsay Bebout
Let's Talk - Cobra Kai
Episode 119: Patreon/Superfan - Lindsay Bebout
Jason Connell and Sal Rodriguez have Patreon/Superfan, Lindsay Bebout, on the show to discuss all things Cobra Kai and much more.
Original Episode: S04E31
Recorded: 06-24-22
Studio: Just Curious Media
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Whoa, just curious. Welcome to Just curious media. This is let's talk Cobra Kai and I'm Jason Connell on the show today. I'm joined by Patreon superfan. Lindsey Bebout. Did I get that? Right?
Lindsay Bebout:It's Bebo. Gosh,
Jason Connell:we've been wrong forever. Well, this is why we're having people on to get their names right. Say it again. The last name.
Lindsay Bebout:That's Bebo. It doesn't look like
Jason Connell:Bebo I like that better. I've been saying Bebout forever. Be Bebo's way cooler. All right. Now I know I will never write that down. Because I have little like a cheat sheet. Mine says babe out. No. Okay. Well, it is a pleasure to have you on because you're kind of a legend around these parts. I am You are the original Patreon I have like we turn that thing on. And it was like crickets. Man, if I could insert the cricket sound I would hear and I thought Is this thing on? No one's looking so and then out of nowhere when I was about to take it down, bloop. There you come. Our first Patreon joined March 28 2021. Strike first and you did literally struck first. And then you created something. We got more patrons. But Lindsey What made you do that? Because it's one thing to love a show. Listen, which we love. If obviously, we're gonna call you a superfan if you're a Patreon. But what was it that made you take the leap? And become a patreon?
Lindsay Bebout:Yeah, so I don't know if you're a survivor fan at all. But there's raw there's a show called Rob has a podcast. Yes. Yes. And I think he, I think Patreon has been around for a while. But I think he was one of the first to really hone that in and make that into something. And I mean, we're talking this was like, early 2010, when podcasting wasn't even really a thing. So I've been a patron for him for a long time. I don't even really watch Survivor and I still give him money just because I respect so much what he does, right. And then along the line, I kind of don't
Jason Connell:much money you given him.
Lindsay Bebout:But I along the line, I had become a patron of other shows as well. And I had built friendships out of it. I have just gotten way more than you could ever imagine. Getting money, but there's Yeah. And so for me, actually one specific show that I was a patron of ended. And they kind of had a similar format, where the two hosts it wasn't it originally was a survivor show. And then it turned into more about their lives. But they had this chemistry where when you listen, you felt like you were hanging out with friends when you're alone. And I found your show during COVID. Right 2020 Where I was so desperate to feel like I had friends. Yeah. And so I would just binge your show, and I caught up on it all the episodes I had missed. And so I kind of felt that same kinship, right? Like, I feel like I'm getting something out of this. How, you know, what can I do to show my appreciation?
Jason Connell:You should be the spokesperson for our show one.
Lindsay Bebout:Plus, I'm not gonna lie. I was like, Oh, I can be the first.
Jason Connell:Yeah, there you go. There's that? Well, that's, I'm glad you found that. I mean, I'm glad we could help you through COVID. And I'm also just glad that you speak of that. And you support other arts. I do know who you speak of. I listened to his show when they broke down Seinfeld. And I became a fan of that. And that was one of the shows that I was like, That model can work. Because I was looking to launch this new media and I come from film and I wanted to get into podcasting. It's like, well, I got to start with a show, you can't just start with nothing. And this one came to mind. And I reached out to Sal because I figured that two person we had great chemistry going back years, and I knew that would come through in some way, shape or form. It's not forced. We know each other. We really get along. We've never had a bad moment between us. And so I'm glad to hear that you feel like you would go along with friends on this journey. Because that's really all we're after. It's what we're trying to create. And I'm glad to hear that it resonates with you. And hopefully others. Hopefully, we'll see. You know, we'll see. But anyway, we're the first so yeah, I mean, that's really cool. Really, really cool indeed. So now we want to know a little bit more about Lindsey. So like, where did you grow up? What do you do the usual questions, but yeah, where did you grow up where it's your hometown?
Lindsay Bebout:So I'm born and raised in Fountain Valley, California, which means nothing. So I'm right next to Huntington Beach. Right next to me. That will probably mean something. Oh, yeah.
Jason Connell:I love HP. Very nice. Hi. So did you ever leave California cuz it's hard to leave. I moved out two years ago and it's it's tough. Trust me. Have you ever gone away to school or besides traveling to different live in another state?
Lindsay Bebout:I didn't. I went to Caltech person to Orange Coast College and I went to Cal State Long Beach. I technically live in Costa Mesa, which is also right next to Huntington Beach. So I haven't gotten far at all, but I do love to travel and every time I go to Denver, I feel such a kinship there. So many Maybe one day, but it's I mean, you can see Jason my window right now.
Jason Connell:I see it. I see it. I thought you were in Denver, because I think you popped up on our Instagram. I've seen you in like a Bronco shirt. So I just saw that real quick and assume, yeah, Denver. That's good to know. Sal is the same way. Born and raised in California never lived anywhere else. I know if I'd grown up there. Maybe I wouldn't even know it. I grew up in Oklahoma. And I chose California for almost 17 years. And now I'm choosing New England, which I also love. But it's a little easier for me because I've experienced something else. But yeah, it's all you know, it's a great place to be and it's hard to leave. I am so what line of work are you in?
Lindsay Bebout:So I one of those people who lost her job during COVID. And biggest lesson in the world. I mean, as big of a blessing as it can be. I don't I don't want to downplay COVID. But I was desperate to find a job. And this job just kind of fell into my lap. It was never something I was searching but I am obsessed with it. So I work in I'm an account manager for an advertising company that helps companies get more applicants to their jobs. Oh, yeah. Which was been crazy this last year. That's Yes, job markets and insane. But more than what it is that I'm doing this company is just amazing. It's run by people from Europe. So they're, you know, six weeks paid time off. Oh, yeah. Months maternity leave, like everything that American companies don't do they do.
Jason Connell:They're probably not open in August, you guys take August off like? Yeah, I used to work with this company well on projects and my movies, and they're in the London. And if you missed them after five or an August, good luck, there'll be back in the office later. And I like that, you know, they got some you know, I live my life more that way now. But yeah, in America, it's tough. Unless you have your own company. So good for you. I'm glad to hear the success story. Yeah.
Lindsay Bebout:I also have my like, passion side job. I write from our high sports. So I write a couple articles a month about the Broncos. So I wanted I always thought I wanted to work in professional sports, and I did some internships and realized it. Sometimes mixing your passion with your career isn't such a good idea. So this is the perfect balance where I get to dip my toes in it and do some podcasting and whatnot. But I can still be a fan. And it's not my entire life. Yeah.
Jason Connell:Have you done some podcasts about Russell Wilson coming to town? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I knew is going somewhere. Washington tried to get I nearly called them the Redskins. But they were trying to get Russell Wilson but I'm a big fan. And that's exciting for you guys. You have a great defense, or you had a great defense. Let's see if they haven't got you know, you never know it's hard to put things into into play at the right time. And timing is everything. And you're in a very, very hard division, as you know, oh
Lindsay Bebout:my gosh, I know. I know. But it's, it's very exciting. It's one of those, you know, 2022 has, for many reasons has not been easy. But I can always go back to. But Lindsey you have Russell Wilson.
Jason Connell:There's gonna be some plays some highlights big games. That's really exciting. Well, good for you, Lindsay. You're living the life and you're kind of a podcaster to which I like I like that. Yeah, this is old hat for you. So let's dive into how you became I'm assuming you're a fan of the Karate Kid of the move. Oh, yes. Go back. So when was the first time you saw that?
Lindsay Bebout:I want to say I was 11 or 12. My so my parents are divorced. And if anyone knows that has divorced parents, when you go to your dad's house, they always try and make it special. Right? Because you're not there as often and they want you to want to come. My dad, it was always showing us movies and he was a big proponent of like, you need to watch all the classics. Yeah, exactly. So thumb like the Karate Kid, hip. Others, like the Neverending Story still have me traumatized to this day.
Jason Connell:That's terrifying. Yeah, my younger sister was terrified. Yeah, there's some moments Wait a second. Like nine years old bawling my eyes it's incredible though, but yeah, it's like the Dark Crystal I saw in the theater. I'm like, Man, this is really got a weird vibe. Um, yeah. Even Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory back in the day. Five.
Lindsay Bebout:I am a Willy Wonka is a murderer truth it like 100% 100%. I talked about that on my hinge profile.
Jason Connell:Alright, sorry. Continue, please. So you
Lindsay Bebout:loved it. And it was also my mom loved it when she was a kid. So we I always knew that. So then when Cobra Kai came along, it became a show that my mom and I could watch and as I got older, the more I watched it, the more I liked it right when you're 12 you don't necessarily relate to as much and then once you get older, it's a little bit more relatable. So it was one of those movies. Like the more I watched it, the more I liked it. And I actually when Cobra Kai came out, I'm just a sucker for nostalgia. So I was more just excited the fact that they brought Johnny back because we'd seen, you know, we'd seen LORUSSO come back twice already. We'd gotten quite a feel but like to see Johnny back, talk about the soldier.
Jason Connell:And the show is really like he's one of the main characters, if not maybe the main character of
Lindsay Bebout:exactly. And so that kind of stuck with me. And yeah, but then the fact that it's so well written,
Jason Connell:Oh, gosh. That's amazing. But Lindsay, you did skip over some other things real quick. Oh, credit card, part two, part three, The Next Karate Kid?
Lindsay Bebout:Okay. So I'll be honest, I've never seen The Next Karate Kid.
Jason Connell:That's a common response. That's okay.
Lindsay Bebout:And I didn't see two or three. I didn't watch them until I knew it would help. I think, yeah, I believe actually, I watched it would be season three. And then I watched the second movie to understand it. But what they do so well, is that the way they show footage, you don't even necessarily need to have seen it. It still makes sense to you, which is what I which I love.
Jason Connell:And you're a little bit younger. So I definitely grew up watching them and loving one, like no one's business. And then two I thought, You know what, that's really good. Because a different note, it's a different thing. It's not trying to be, you know, so many sequels just try to regurgitate the original. And it didn't do that three. Yeah, that was. Yeah, but you get Terry silver now I can look at it and think, oh, yeah, you got Mike Barnes and there's some moments that are fun. The fact that Danielson did become Cobra Kai. So they pulled this the right stuff out of there, I think so I now I'm happy to exist because we have this. And I feel the same a lot more now about the next credit card, which trust me, it's not very good. But it's also filmed 20 minutes for me, and I've seen some locations now. It's like, okay, and if Julie Hillary Swank does come aboard, well, then you've got a little something there. So it's on Netflix now encourage you to watch it just for Miyagi and her and then all the eye rolls in the cheesiness that you can handle Trust me, I know we're gonna cover it. And I've been reluctant like, yeah, we got to do that. We got to do that. Yeah.
Lindsay Bebout:And I will say, as soon as I watched them, I've been listen to your podcast, recapping it. And oh, great. I mean, I would say it's actually three I would say the podcasts as
Jason Connell:well, thank you, Lindsay. We strive hard here. I felt like a pressure when we did the first ones when we started the whole podcast. And you're just like learning it was our first podcast ever. The second one was like our first thing, one of the first things we did during the pandemic. So it's like one of the first time Sal and I weren't side by side in the studio. So that was like a big moment. But the third one, I felt this responsibility because we're finishing the trilogy. But you're right. Maybe we overshot the movie a little bit. I don't know. But we're honoring it because we are huge Cobra Kai fans, and it is a show that so cross generational, you're speaking about you and your mother watching the show. That's fantastic. They're hitting all of those age groups and younger than us, right? Like just kids who don't even know there's a karate kid. Like, whatever. I love this show and give me Kyler and give me you know, Bert, and all these people. So where do you think the show is headed? Because shows can't last forever, as you know, right? Survivor can but other show shows that are like really have, you know, drama, like us or my restaurant? But you know what I mean? can't last forever?
Lindsay Bebout:Yeah. So that's a really good question. And because so I watched the fourth season, the first day it came out literally like the entire so I haven't watched it. It's been a minute. I was trying to recap everything because I watched it all in one day. And I thought that too, right? Like, how much can they really go? How How much further? Can they take this storyline? Because at a certain point, like what's the next step people get murdered? However, yeah,
Jason Connell:how many home invasions can we take? Yeah,
Lindsay Bebout:however, their net like thinking from a business perspective, Netflix, just last Ozark? They're about to leave Stranger Things. I mean, Cobra Kai is really, that's really the only thing I watch on Netflix. Now, they don't have a lot left. So I see Netflix wanting to stretch it as long as possible. But I do think that the creators and the writers and the actors have such an affection for and like proudness for the show that I don't think they would allow it to, you know, to turn into some of these other shows that really jumped the shark. Yes. So we're talking the next one, season five. I feel like at least another season after that, because I think they're gonna announce like, when they renew it for them,
Jason Connell:maybe they'll do that classic thing now. It's like seven episodes and seven episodes and that's the last season that's like a real popular A thing now Ozar other shows are doing Stranger Things is doing that exactly. Honestly, I could bail out on six gracefully and then maybe take a break. But I see spin offs coming because this isn't flicks. And this is I think the Miyagi idea, the origin story, what you wouldn't even need any of these characters could be happening simultaneously. And then maybe you take one or two that don't launch into movies, some of this cat, these cast members are going places, as you already know, like they're getting plucked out. Oh, you the right age, the right look, and they have all these followers, you're gonna see that so they're not, not all of them want to keep the show going? I'm sure. Right. That's gonna be something. But I do see spin offs for sure.
Lindsay Bebout:Oh, for sure. And well, and I love this show. And what I love most about it is I don't have ideas about. Yeah, so I just talked from a business perspective, creatively, I have absolutely no idea where they take the show from now. Like, I can't even predict it. Because just because of what the concept is and where it's at, you know, obviously, it was left on a cliffhanger where Chris is getting arrested. And like, how do they how does he continue on the show? If he's in prison? Like I have absolutely no idea creatively where the show goes, but you're so right on the spin off. There's absolutely no way. I'm actually shocked. We haven't gotten one this far.
Jason Connell:I could see Chris doing his own show, too. That character is here forever. Yeah, he he'll take it either. He can be a comedy. They could take it a whole the way like it could be a funny teacher in the world because he's taken that character and been in other shows, you know, like The Goldbergs, as a more over the top character of John crease. He could do that whatever our he could be serious. I could see him and wanting to do it as a whole other thing. He's totally in. Or Terry silver. We don't know I have some people that have fans have reached out and said Hawk Hawk needs its own show. Yeah, he probably could carry his own show. I don't know what that looks like. That's why I think the Miyagi makes the most sense. But we know we're in good hands with these show runners. As far as this franchise goes. I mean, these guys make all the right decisions as if they've pulled the audience the hardcore fan. I'm always pleasantly surprised or if not even more than pleasantly surprised. And I love the callbacks to the you know, people from the original movies. Do you love that scene alley pop up are chosen or unreal?
Lindsay Bebout:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's nice too. Because like, I mean, this is gonna sound a little. It's just a cielo silly movie series. But it's nice that we got closure with ally because I do feel like yeah, got Rob or the second movie. Oh, my God, after all that she doesn't exist. And so it was nice to get closure on her character. And she could come back, but to at least get some sort of happy ending and know that everything worked out. That really warmed my heart.
Jason Connell:Yeah, that just made her like, yeah, she wrecked the car. And then she's dating some guy, UCLA, some football player, like what that was? Yeah, that was a horrible way to bow out. So I agree with you. They've corrected those things. And I'd love to see, well. Who do you want to see it? For instance, who do you want to see pop up in season five?
Lindsay Bebout:I think we would know by now and Hillary Swank was in there, but I don't feel like she had a lot going on these days. Right. I feel like we don't really hear about
Jason Connell:you heard it here first. Lindsey is breaking news here.
Lindsay Bebout:I feel like she would be down.
Jason Connell:I don't know about the first part you said but I think she'd be down to time Oscar winner doesn't need to do very much all the time. No, no.
Lindsay Bebout:And I don't say that negatively. I don't know. Like she has
Jason Connell:her own show going on. I'm sure they've approached I think Mike Barnes deserves a an appearance because of I think Terry's gonna need here. Someone's gonna need a sidekick.
Lindsay Bebout:And you're gonna remember the name. What's the name of the friend that Daniel makes? Fred in the first movie? Yeah, I would love to see him too.
Jason Connell:Yeah, he's totally gone. It's like we've talked about that have him on there either a buddy or is that the pool when they go visit the South Seas departments? I totally agree. And maybe they've reached out and there's this not interest on their part that could be like I'm over that I don't want to relive that. But bringing chosen and rehabilitating how the worst villain ever I thought Terry Silva and him but Joseph is trying to kill Daniel. So he and his girlfriend Yuki so yes, and then that guy now we like him in the show makes me do that like Wow, no, I have feelings for this guy. It's powerful. That's powerful.
Lindsay Bebout:You do know though. I can't remember I talked about it when I was gonna recap there was a Fernandez easter egg in the fourth season you know that right? Yeah, what was that Easter egg that's right. Yeah, what's his name? So they are in the freezer the all the packaging for the the meat had his name on it. So it's implied that it's his freezer his company. So if
Jason Connell:you're gonna do that, though, is set that up for a reason. You know, don't just give me that Easter egg. I want to see the actor who was an actor. He I watch other movies. Sometimes it's like, what's he doing an indecent proposal? He plays like a student learning language from Jimmy Morris character. I'm like why? it. So he was an actor, a working actor. I watched another movie not that long ago. And he had a total foreign accent. He played a bad guy. I was like, This is insane. So, yeah, bring him back. But anyway, so yeah, those are good choices. I don't know about Julie, Hilary Swank. I want to see it. I could see it being into the season are the following. But I've learned not to make predictions because I swore Mike Barnes is going to be in season four. It's like, nope, so no predictions for me. I'll just see what happens. But super excited. What about this? Do you think there will ever be another Karate Kid movie or even a Cobra Kai movie?
Lindsay Bebout:So are we talking Karate Kid movie that is a part of this world or
Jason Connell:coming out of coming out of this world? Yeah, not like a sequel to the one with Jackie Chan. Not that. But I mean, out of this world. Either way, you know how, like Sex and the City was it became a movie and you know, entourage. But do you see that spawning a movie?
Lindsay Bebout:I see it being a Netflix movie. I don't necessarily. Theater. Fair enough. Yeah. So I'll say that. Yes. Like I said, strictly for the business perspective. Makes sense. As we know, like Netflix is losing subscribers. Colbert is really there last and I think with Cobra Kai, like, for example, Ozark doesn't have 13 year old viewers and 75 year old viewers. Cobra Kai is a show that appeals to kids. And it appeals to you know, people in nursing homes like that is a show that is always going to or that is a franchise that is always going to be a slam dunk. So I think Netflix, for sure when Cobra Kai is over, we have not seen the last of it now do I think, Ralph and I think William probably would never really say No, I think well, I don't know. Because I would you know, I would have thought Ralph would have said no to Cobra Kai. And he said, Yeah, and I think that changed everything for him. So I could be wrong, but I don't know. I guess at this one he would probably say yes to
Jason Connell:it's really tricky. I mean, if Netflix and they're thinking about bottom dollar, and they think about subscribers, they could even do a whole like reboot, not with these characters, but like Cobra Kai, next generation or even beyond Edo. And it's just kids in a dojo, and it's a whole other tale, but it's loosely based on but you're right, they need to keep these subscribers and this is such a cross generational show. We've seen Mighty Ducks do this recently with game changers. And I have watched it because I liked Maddox the original, but I never really followed the franchise after that. But I wondered, I wonder how successful that is. And when we see more of that here, maybe we're overthinking it, like pluck out a character they may just take a few like who knows who's left standing who doesn't get a movie deal, you know, and sometimes shows pivot that way but I'm excited to see from that standpoint and also just from this particular show with the show runners everything they do it has the right magic.
Lindsay Bebout:Yeah, well and I wanted to make sure I said the the names correctly the to act Okay, so because I obviously know them by their character's name, but not so. So Jacob for Tron and how can you hate Lister dating? I could totally see Netflix. Trying to take advantage of that. Oh, wow.
Jason Connell:Yeah, there you go. There's your spin off right there.
Lindsay Bebout:Yeah, right. 100%
Jason Connell:Yeah, I like it. I like it. You never know. And these characters what we've seen them change so much. I mean, he's 180s that they all pool. It's just It's wild.
Lindsay Bebout:One more thing. I'm obsessed with Parks and Rec. Oh, yeah. So getting I don't know if you watch that show. So when I saw Darren, okay, so yeah, so Jacob played, he was a significant character in one of the episodes of Parks and Rec. And so when I saw him, I was like, I'm sold. I took care of that. So he thought it
Jason Connell:I was gonna ask you so you discover Cobra Kai, we kind of skipped over that. We've talked about lots of things, which has been amazing. But what made you hone in on it? It was already off of YouTube. It was on Netflix, but just was it the fact that it was related to Cobra Kai or Karate Kid, I should say, Well, what was it like? What stood out? Was it him? So
Lindsay Bebout:like? Well, so I didn't watch it on YouTube. But first of all, the reviews were phenomenal. Yes. So when it came on to Netflix, I was like, I should definitely check this out. And then it was just so funny. I mean, I love how I love how unpolitical II correct Johnny is but he's still lovable. You know how hard it is to have mixed those two. Like the fact that it just, it sucked you in from that because it was funny. It was well written. It had been a soldier factor. And then the more the more they amped the nostalgia, the more I was I would text my mom and be like, Oh my gosh, this reference was made and so it just sets you in more and more and more.
Jason Connell:Yeah, that first episode. You're like, oh my god, here's like the Encino Man. He's literally been frozen in the 80s. Yeah. And you just loved him. You know, he just really makes the show.
Lindsay Bebout:Well, and yeah, it's one thing like I said, if Johnny wasn't on it, and it was just the annual Yeah, you never thought you'd see this again. But like I said, we've seen Daniel. Nobody had seen You ask people 30 years ago, Will we ever see Johnny Lawrence? No way Karate Kid? No. And so it was kind of like I think the feeling I would have had if the Lizzie McGuire reboot had happened. I'm still haven't recovered from that. Like, I never thought I'd see adult Lindsay again. And so the fact that it was happening, it was that same feeling. Yeah.
Jason Connell:Well, this has been amazing. Lindsay, we may have to have you back on at some point. We go down the road and we learn more about what's coming. Anything else you want to leave our fans with? I mean, just fans in general of Cobra Kai Karate Kid, even let's talk Cobra Kai, anything you want to leave people with? Final thoughts?
Lindsay Bebout:Yes, you guys should deaf. If you're listening to this, and you're not a patron. You definitely should. Like I said, These guys work really hard. It's really, you know, they have like a $1 tear. It's really not. And as somebody who does a podcast and knows how difficult it can be to stay motivated. Just the fact that you know, people care enough to take the extra step, makes them want or makes me makes whoever want to work so much harder, so that it does not go unnoticed and it really does make the show better. And it's very much appreciated. So if you guys like the show, you should become patrons immediately.
Jason Connell:Thank you. Let's I wasn't looking for that. I thought you might talk about what's coming. But hey, that's amazing. You're a great endorser of our show. We don't want to get on the rooftops and sing our own praises. So that we have Yeah, please. superfans. Please take. We'll stick around. I'm gonna have you take Sal's famous line that he stole from John creased in the episode after I do the outro so thank you so much for listening and please be sure to subscribe to the let's talk Cobra Kai podcast as well as the let's talk rubrica YouTube Live Channel. You can also really help us by giving the show a five star rating on Apple podcast. And for all you listeners that enjoy sharing your thoughts you can leave us a review on Apple podcast send us a direct message or post a comment on any let's not corporate guy social media platform. If you're a dedicated listener or viewer of Let's Talk Cobra Kai, please consider supporting the show on Patreon. We also highly recommend checking out our other podcast and visiting just curious media.com Lindsay, take it away.
Lindsay Bebout:No mercy.
Jason Connell:All right, great job.
